Hi, I have been following the thread on Fedora content licensing and, since Red Hat Legal was mentioned, I wanted to make a few comments, speaking here as a licensing lawyer for Red Hat. The Docs Project licensing FAQ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Licensing/FAQ says: The legal counsel for the Fedora Project carefully examined all of the well-known content licenses, and concluded that only the OPL met all of the criteria for an unambiguous and enforceable license that would guarantee the freedoms of contributors and users. This was Red Hat's best judgment at the time, but it no longer represents Red Hat's view. All free (not to mention non-free and quasi-free) content licenses that we know of have flaws, and the OPL isn't the worst, but, while I don't want to unduly disparage the OPL, I cannot see how anyone can, today, justifiably regard it as the best. The use of the OPL certainly has been an important part of Red Hat's history, and Fedora's history, but it is perhaps best regarded as a legacy content license, favored by Red Hat during a transitional period in which Red Hat's documentation licensing policy was gradually liberalized. In a posting in this thread, Spot said that Red Hat Legal "tolerates" Fedora's use of the OPL. That's accurate; part of that tolerance is an appreciation (which has grown over time) for the difficulties involved in license changes and the community expectations that have been built up around longstanding license policies. Red Hat similarly accepts what I understand to be a general preference for the OPL by the authors on our outstanding engineering content services team, as implemented for example in the Publican Red Hat branding package. Within limits, Red Hat gives its developers and content authors significant discretion to select licenses for software and documentation. The practice of adding nonfree restrictions (for which the OPL uses the Orwellian term "options"), which once characterized much Red Hat documentation and distinguished it from Fedora's, is however no longer acceptable. All Red Hat-copyrighted OPL-licensed documentation is now therefore available under vanilla OPL, and thus any reference to "options" can be ignored. The Docs Project licensing FAQ says: The documentation provided by Red Hat, Inc. is licensed under the OPL today, and has been using the optional clauses to prevent the documents being modified and published without permission. Red Hat is going to remove those optional clauses and use the same license as Fedora Documentation. More details about this are forthcoming. The removal of the "options" is now accomplished as a matter of policy. (Anyone who sees any post-2008 Red Hat documentation licensed under OPL+"options" is encouraged to file a bug report.) The statement seems to suggest that Red Hat has a single-license policy for documentation, but that has (as far as I can tell) never been so, any more than we have had, say, a GPLv2-only policy for software. Red Hat has, and continues to, license some of its copyrighted documentation under the GFDL, for example, and indeed under ordinary FOSS licenses. The FAQ says: Red Hat documentation that uses the same OPL licensing is going to be able to intermingle content with the Fedora community. I don't know how much of a real desire there is for such intermingling, but in general this intermingling has always been possible for Red Hat-copyrighted documentation. For example, I mentioned that Red Hat licenses some of its copyrighted documentation under the GFDL. Suppose Fedora switches content licensing to CC-BY-SA. Even though GFDL and CC-BY-SA are basically incompatible, Red Hat can generally permit the Fedora community to use GFDL-licensed Red Hat-copyrighted documentation under CC-BY-SA if requested to do so. The issue about Creative Commons and absence of warranty disclaimers must reflect either a mistaken reading by us or (less likely, I think) a misunderstanding of something we said. As far as I can tell, all Creative Commons licenses have had boilerplate warranty disclaimers from the get-go. - Richard -- Richard E. Fontana Open Source Licensing and Patent Counsel Red Hat, Inc. -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list