On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 09:20:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> Note that the su command removes the need for the user to look for >>> niggling prompt details. It also clarifies that the user should >>> expect a prompt for the root password. > > In theory, no-one should ever have (to have) the root password. It > should be changed regularly and the actual password can be (should be) > stored in a (very) safe location. > > In practice of course though, this *almost* never ever happens, and that > IMHO is a bad thing. > > Using "su -c" in documentation is not going to facilitate improving that > situation, while the alternative is: > >> In part of that discussion with the Content Services team, we discussed >> the need for sudo to be enabled by default. One person was in favor of >> having each document specify how to enable sudo, but I don't like that >> rat hole. That is another point we could discuss, however, if any >> Anonymous Cowards are interested in fixing the common usage. Meanwhile, >> I'm advocating for a sane sudo-by-default in future Fedora versions so >> we can stop having to use 'su -c'. >> > > There appears to be a growing wish for having the first user (entered > during firstboot) be sudo-enabled, how can we actually make it so, > process-technically speaking? Way off topic for this list I think. This is for fedora-devel-list. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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