Re: prompts in command examples

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On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 09:20:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
>> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> Note that the su command removes the need for the user to look for
>>> niggling prompt details.  It also clarifies that the user should
>>> expect a prompt for the root password.
>
> In theory, no-one should ever have (to have) the root password. It  
> should be changed regularly and the actual password can be (should be)  
> stored in a (very) safe location.
>
> In practice of course though, this *almost* never ever happens, and that  
> IMHO is a bad thing.
>
> Using "su -c" in documentation is not going to facilitate improving that  
> situation, while the alternative is:
>
>> In part of that discussion with the Content Services team, we discussed
>> the need for sudo to be enabled by default.  One person was in favor of
>> having each document specify how to enable sudo, but I don't like that
>> rat hole.  That is another point we could discuss, however, if any
>> Anonymous Cowards are interested in fixing the common usage.  Meanwhile,
>> I'm advocating for a sane sudo-by-default in future Fedora versions so
>> we can stop having to use 'su -c'.  
>>
>
> There appears to be a growing wish for having the first user (entered  
> during firstboot) be sudo-enabled, how can we actually make it so,  
> process-technically speaking?

Way off topic for this list I think.  This is for fedora-devel-list.

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