This page has been edited to show a final structure for how pages are named: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure#Page_naming The background discussion on why is found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help_talk:Wiki_Structure In the end, I was swayed by nim (Nicolas Mailhot) and Ian Weller over two items. The first part is the global, multi-lingual audience. Here is a relevant section from the discussion: From quaid: Say outloud these two page titles: "Docs Project meetings" and "Meetings of the Docs Project". They are both accurate and sound fine, for native language speakers. In English, it is more likely that the shorter, more declarative form ("Docs Project meetings") is going to be used; many would call that version "more natural", perhaps because of the English speaker's habit of removing articles (the) and prepositions (of). * One way to explain why to use this style of naming, rather than calling it "natural language forms", say they are "easier to understand for non-native readers" and "easier to translate." * Another good argument is that having pages with intrinsically accurate titles means they sort properly on the category page. As you point out, all the meetings then fall under "Meetings of Foo-20080630" and sort chronologically etc. * Agree --Ian Weller 04:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC) The second part is in how I think we can use MediaWiki. The wiki should guide people in how to do something -- learn more, do more, play more, etc. To make such guides with a Sub/Page/Structure forces content to exist in only one ''guide space'', fixed by name. The only way to change it is to change all the page names and update incoming links. In WM, the categories are the guide spaces. We'll use [[Category:Packaging Guidelines]] on every page of the current PackagingGuidelines/ guide space, then rename each page to something unique to that page. For example: * '''old''' PackagingGuidelines#Beware_of_Rpath * '''new''' Beware_of_rpath_in_packaging Then a visit to [[Category:Packaging Guidelines]] shows the pages, all in alphabetical order, all stating what they are about. To recreate the layout of the current PackagingGuidelines page, we construct a page that either links to or transcludes all the particular pages in the order you wish. Using a transclude allows the page to be reorganized and autocreate the ToC, so is the preferable method. As an example of the mess we currently have, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging currently redirects here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/Packaging Anything confusing on that page? This new method is designed to solve ugly pages like that. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41
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