John Babich wrote:
* quaid has changed the topic to: FDSCo mtg -- Mailing list spam and moderation
* stickster here
<quaid> hmm, without Bob I don't think we get the full impatc
<quaid> but aiui
<quaid> he was concerned with list moderators stepping on each other
<quaid> outside of designating hours of coverage (horrors!)
<quaid> I think we just have to be careful
<quaid> and make sure we know what we are rejecting
<quaid> for this I use the Mailman WebUI to be sure
<jmbuser> quaid: Is there any way to prevent the spam mail from
cloggin up my webmail?
<jmbuser> s / cloggin / clogging /
<quaid> filters?
<quaid> also ...
<quaid> Mike was going to adjust our filters
<quaid> but afaict he hasn't
<quaid> I don't know quite what to do there and haven't found anyone
who can help
* quaid tries not to say M I K E ' s name so as to not distract him
from FAS2 fun
<jmbuser> The signal-to-noise ratio drops drastically with spam and
causes me to miss real information
<quaid> hmm
<quaid> I'm not sure if the spam filters drop the message before it
gets to the queue
<quaid> I'll drop mike an email about the filters
<jmbuser> thanks
<quaid> ok, that's about what we can do
<quaid> jmbuser: are you using the web interface for moderating? or
still using the reply-to in the email stuff?
<stickster> Hm, I haven't seen any spam on f-docs-l.
<jmbuser> quaid: web interface
<stickster> Maybe it's my Gmail at work?
<quaid> stickster: it doesn't land on list, it hits the moderation queue
<stickster> Oh that.
* mkranz (n=mkranz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has joined #fedora-meeting
<quaid> so it's moderator email that you see
<quaid> ok, anything else here?
<stickster> *AH*. I've been getting a BOATLOAD of that on f-a-b and
f-board-l that I do have to moderate, so fair enough.
<quaid> stickster: mike figured out a formula for using RHT set spam
assassin headers
<stickster> quaid: I've been considering simply rejecting email from
non-subscribers, at least on f-board-l.
<quaid> I just sent him email, once I get the details, i'll publish
and advertise to list admins
<quaid> stickster: then you lose the people who we ask to reply to the board
<stickster> s/non-subscribers/non-subscribers who aren't preapproved/
<quaid> aiui, the SA headers are present and can be used by Mailman
<stickster> Aha
<stickster> OK, not to drive this into the ground, sorry all.
<quaid> I just want to avoid re-doing Mike's figuring here, so I'll
see what he says, then try it on f-docs-l ...etc.
<quaid> ok, moving on ...
<stickster> If it works, let me know and I'll follow suit
* quaid looks back up 9 lines in his buffer
<quaid> yep
Sorry I missed the meeting, one thing that I have been doing with the
spammers is checking the box to "always reject from this address." this
will help over time I think. this is what the "rejected" messages are
from. I think we can turn those off in mailman.
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