Re: FDSCo Meeting 2008-02-27 IRC log

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Hi all.

Re AG update - I've been out of any action on AGBeta for the last few weeks, due to work related travel. And lots of work.

Missed the March deadline for XML conversion but will do more over the coming weekend. There isn't much left but since I'm the only one writing this stuff, might not be complete for another week or two.

Cheers, Vladimir

John Babich wrote:
Feb 27 22:13:58 <jmbuser>	<meeting>
Feb 27 22:14:19 <jmbuser>	Welcome to the Fedora Docs Meeting
Feb 27 22:14:26 <jmbuser>	Roll Call
Feb 27 22:14:30 <jmbuser>	John Babich
Feb 27 22:15:00 <couf>	Bart Couvreur
Feb 27 22:15:22 <glezos>	Dimitris Glezos
Feb 27 22:16:38 <glezos>	stickster, quaid, BobJensen: ping
Feb 27 22:17:11 <jmbuser>	quaid gave his apology earlier - he's not
feeling well...
Feb 27 22:17:32 <jmbuser>	stickster may join us later...he has a meeting
Feb 27 22:17:54 *	jsmith (n=jsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx) has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:17:58 <jmbuser>	BobJensen's taking care of family business...
Feb 27 22:18:10 <jmbuser>	jsmith: ping
Feb 27 22:18:34 *	jsmith is here
Feb 27 22:18:54 <jmbuser>	OK, please see the agenda at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings
Feb 27 22:19:42 <jmbuser>	Item #1: Any update on one-page summary?
Feb 27 22:20:19 *	mdomsch has quit ("Leaving")
Feb 27 22:20:22 <couf>	JonRob asked about it on the marketing-list
Feb 27 22:21:14 <couf>	will be a part of the markteting meeting this week, afaik
Feb 27 22:22:42 <jmbuser>	couf: I can't find the reference, but I'll
take your word on it
Feb 27 22:23:26 <couf>	ow, hang on
Feb 27 22:23:43
<couf>	https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-February/msg00433.html
Feb 27 22:23:53 <jmbuser>	couf: thanks
Feb 27 22:24:33 *	JSchmitt (n=s4504kr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:24:44 <couf>	I'm in favor of letting marketing do the first
write-ups and we go in after to do some wordsmithing etc
Feb 27 22:25:27 <jmbuser>	+1
Feb 27 22:25:57 <jmbuser>	Any other comments on item #1?
Feb 27 22:26:17 <EvilBob>	Hey I am Here
Feb 27 22:26:31 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: welcome
Feb 27 22:27:01 <jmbuser>	OK, how about item #2 - update on active
content - Release notes?
Feb 27 22:27:48 *	JSchmitt has quit (Client Quit)
Feb 27 22:27:52 <jmbuser>	Ties in with beta freeze, I would imagine
Feb 27 22:28:12 *	stickster is now known as stickster_afk
Feb 27 22:28:34 <jmbuser>	So, moving on...DUG / AG / SMG
Feb 27 22:29:06 <EvilBob>	IG: I have no updates this week, I have been
learning emacs and vi trying to find an editor before I start digging
in
Feb 27 22:29:31 *	wolfy (n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy) has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:29:32 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: OK
Feb 27 22:29:52 <couf>	same here: no updates
Feb 27 22:30:31 <jmbuser>	DUG: No update - I'm ready to attempt
Publican to do some DocBook conversion, after some editing
Feb 27 22:31:00 <jmbuser>	OK, crypto?
Feb 27 22:31:34 <jsmith>	Last I heard on crypto, Sparks was still
working on it in the wiki
Feb 27 22:31:43 *	cdehaan
(n=Cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has
joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:31:54 <jsmith>	jmbuser: I'm happy to help with DocBook
conversion on DUG, fwiw
Feb 27 22:32:39 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Thanks, as long as I can take part
in it, because I need to improve my skills at DocBook
Feb 27 22:33:06 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Absolutely!  I'll just play the role
as mentor, answering questions as you get stuck
Feb 27 22:33:23 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Thanks
Feb 27 22:33:37 *	fabian_a (n=fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:33:38 <jmbuser>	Moving on - ConsoleKit/PolicyKit inclusion beat
Feb 27 22:34:35 <EvilBob>	To do this week, BobJensen needs to get an
email out for Beats content
Feb 27 22:35:40 <jmbuser>	I saw some blogging on it
Feb 27 22:35:59 *	cdehaan has quit (Client Quit)
Feb 27 22:36:04 <EvilBob>	Yeah I am going to start blogging this week
Feb 27 22:36:48 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: excellent
Feb 27 22:37:24 <jmbuser>	Set Chair/Leader - should we tackle this now
or wait on it?
Feb 27 22:37:35 *	smooge has quit ("-ENOCAFFEINE")
Feb 27 22:37:52 <EvilBob>	vice chair
Feb 27 22:37:55 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Before we jump to that, can we mention SMG?
Feb 27 22:38:01 *	smooge (n=smooge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:38:03 <EvilBob>	jsmith: yes
Feb 27 22:38:12 <jmbuser>	jsmith:  +1
Feb 27 22:38:19 <jsmith>	I'm still waiting on feedback on the SMG
transition from Wiki to CVS
Feb 27 22:38:27 *	smooge has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
Feb 27 22:38:35 *	DanseMakabre (i=pat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has joined
#fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:38:43 <jsmith>	(technically, it should be in good shape...
it could use some wordsmithing in a few places, but the docbook should
be pretty solid)
Feb 27 22:39:06 <jsmith>	I was hoping to get some of the more
experienced members of the team to make sure I haven't totally screwed
up
Feb 27 22:39:18 *	jsmith is still new here, and doesn't want to assume
he's doing it right
Feb 27 22:39:28 <jmbuser>	jsmith: I can review it for typos, style,
etc. if you like
Feb 27 22:40:00 <jsmith>	jmbuser: OK, that would be great.
Feb 27 22:40:12 <jsmith>	I'll try to get quaid or stickster to review
the DocBook
Feb 27 22:40:20 <jsmith>	That's all I had ;-)
Feb 27 22:40:45 <jmbuser>	jsmith: Are you familiar with the CVS procedures?
Feb 27 22:40:48 *	wolfy (n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy) has left
#fedora-meeting ("It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the
sudden stop at the end.")
Feb 27 22:42:38 *	cdehaan
(n=Cody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has
joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:42:38 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Yes
Feb 27 22:42:48 <jmbuser>	jsmith: good
Feb 27 22:42:55 <jsmith>	jmbuser: I've already done the conversion to
DocBook and checked the changes into CVS
Feb 27 22:43:05 <jsmith>	jmbuser: (in the yum-management-guide module)
Feb 27 22:43:15 <jmbuser>	jsmith: good++
Feb 27 22:43:34 <jsmith>	What I'm not super-familiar with is the tool chain
Feb 27 22:43:50 <jsmith>	(and nuances of various DocBook tags and how
you guys use them)
Feb 27 22:44:04 <jsmith>	But yes, I'm very familiar with CVS and
DocBook in general
Feb 27 22:44:39 <EvilBob>	Leadership?
Feb 27 22:44:43 *	cdehaan has quit (Client Quit)
Feb 27 22:44:55 <jmbuser>	jmbuser: I'm not an expert, but I'm a little
familiar with the tags  - po files are another story
Feb 27 22:45:08 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: Since you mentioned it...
Feb 27 22:45:09 <EvilBob>	Do we have enough here for quorum?
Feb 27 22:45:30 <jmbuser>	Let's see - roll call time again
Feb 27 22:45:36 <jmbuser>	John babich
Feb 27 22:45:45 <EvilBob>	couf glezos jmbuser BobJensen jsmith
Feb 27 22:45:53 *	cebbert (n=cebbert@nat/redhat/x-5f0c21f2d3bf45b4)
has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:45:58 <jsmith>	Jared Smith
Feb 27 22:46:00 <EvilBob>	that should be 5 enough for a confirmation
Feb 27 22:46:03 <EvilBob>	Bob Jensen
Feb 27 22:46:33 <EvilBob>	did we lose glezos and couf
Feb 27 22:46:49 <jmbuser>	glezos: ping
Feb 27 22:46:51 <glezos>	EvilBob: I'm here
Feb 27 22:46:57 <jmbuser>	couf: ping
Feb 27 22:47:00 <glezos>	+1 for converting
Feb 27 22:47:20 <couf>	pong, wifi dropped a bit
Feb 27 22:48:05 <jmbuser>	It looks like a quorum...
Feb 27 22:48:11 <EvilBob>	I would like to motion for a vote confirming
jmbuser as our new Vice Chair/Future leader
Feb 27 22:48:21 *	smooge (n=smooge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) has joined #fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:48:57 <jsmith>	I second the motion
Feb 27 22:49:12 <couf>	+1
Feb 27 22:49:41 <EvilBob>	All those in favor of John Babich leading
the prject in the future please respond with a +1
Feb 27 22:49:44 *	JSchmitt (n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt) has joined
#fedora-meeting
Feb 27 22:49:45 <EvilBob>	+1
Feb 27 22:49:49 <couf>	+1
Feb 27 22:49:52 <jmbuser>	(abstains)
Feb 27 22:49:55 <glezos>	um
Feb 27 22:50:01 <glezos>	what does "in the future" mean? :)
Feb 27 22:50:18 <EvilBob>	glezos: 6 onths as vice chair, learning the ropes
Feb 27 22:50:37 <EvilBob>	glezos: then a 1 year term as chair
Feb 27 22:50:52 <EvilBob>	glezos: the last 6 months training the next chair
Feb 27 22:51:09 <glezos>	EvilBob: maybe we might want to have quaid
and stickster around for such a vote?
Feb 27 22:51:18 <jmbuser>	I think it should clear that assumes
continued involvement and re-election
Feb 27 22:51:21 <EvilBob>	glezos: they are in agreement
Feb 27 22:51:33 <glezos>	FWIW, I think it's great to have jmbuser for VC :)
Feb 27 22:52:03 <jmbuser>	If I really screw up, you can kick me out :-)
Feb 27 22:52:04 <glezos>	+1 then
Feb 27 22:52:28 <EvilBob>	jsmith: do you care to vote?
Feb 27 22:52:45 <jsmith>	Obviously, since I seconded the motion
Feb 27 22:52:47 <jsmith>	+1
Feb 27 22:52:54 *	JSchmitt has quit (Client Quit)
Feb 27 22:53:08 <EvilBob>	we have the required 4 + votes to confirm
Feb 27 22:53:20 <EvilBob>	jmbuser: Congrats
Feb 27 22:53:47 <glezos>	jmbuser: I'm sure you'll do well, the work
you've done so far is fantastic
Feb 27 22:53:54 *	jsmith pats jmbuser on the back
Feb 27 22:54:07 <couf>	congrats jmbuser
Feb 27 22:54:31 <jmbuser>	Thanks - I really appreciate the confidence
you guys have in me - I hope to continue to live up to it
Feb 27 22:54:54 <jmbuser>	It's always a team effort
Feb 27 22:55:02 <EvilBob>	I have to bug out at this point, Mom is
getting annoyed
Feb 27 22:55:10 <jsmith>	Thanks EvilBob
Feb 27 22:55:26 <jmbuser>	EvilBob: see you later, thanks
Feb 27 22:57:29 <jmbuser>	Referring back to the agenda,  any more
thoughts on Publican?
Feb 27 22:57:55 <jsmith>	I'm still happy to show people how to get
started, but I'm still just scratching the surface
Feb 27 22:58:05 <jsmith>	I've done three or four different docs in it now
Feb 27 22:58:16 <jsmith>	and even figured out how to get PDFs out of it (mostly)
Feb 27 22:58:24 <glezos>	jmbuser: good job
Feb 27 22:59:22 <jmbuser>	glezos: thanks
Feb 27 22:59:35 <jmbuser>	jsmith: I saw you were quoted in the Red Hat
Magazine article...
Feb 27 23:00:32 <jsmith>	jmbuser: Yeah... stickster has been dropping
my name again, like I'm some sort of rock star
Feb 27 23:00:37 *	jsmith isn't all that and a bag of chips
Feb 27 23:01:00 *	dwmw2_gone is now known as dwmw2_BOS
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Feb 27 23:02:19 <jmbuser>	glezos: How about Publican - Does it fit in
well with Transiifex?
Feb 27 23:03:00 <jmbuser>	s / Transiifex / Transifex /
Feb 27 23:03:02 *	schlobinux_
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#fedora-meeting
Feb 27 23:04:56 <jmbuser>	If nothing else, any other business before we close?
Feb 27 23:05:26 <couf>	not from me
Feb 27 23:06:14 <jmbuser>	OK, the countdown begins...
Feb 27 23:06:18 <jmbuser>	10
Feb 27 23:06:39 <jmbuser>	9
Feb 27 23:06:41 <jmbuser>	8
Feb 27 23:06:46 <jmbuser>	7
Feb 27 23:06:51 <jmbuser>	6
Feb 27 23:06:57 <jmbuser>	5
Feb 27 23:07:01 <jmbuser>	4
Feb 27 23:07:05 <jmbuser>	III
Feb 27 23:07:08 <jmbuser>	II
Feb 27 23:07:33 <jmbuser>	I
Feb 27 23:07:47 <jsmith>	0
Feb 27 23:07:47 <jmbuser>	</meeting>


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