Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 14:54 +0900, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: >>> Does installing from a DVD automatically enable the DVD as a repo? I >>> honestly don't know, since I haven't used a DVD to install in a very >>> long time. The act of updating a system is one area I would say >>> deserves attention in the DUG and the AG. That area of overlap, to me, >>> would be understandable. >>> >> I would assume it does since on the fedoraforum there was a severe >> amount of complaints about having to put a cd/dvd. > > Before documenting it, whoever is writing that section should definitely > confirm the behavior first. I've tried two different installs - DVD and http, in both cases install source ends up on the list of pre-selected repositories. If DVD install is used and DVD not inserted post-install, pup and pirut fail until ''install media"" repo is de-selected. Vladimir > >> The purpose of it is a feature since you can now upgrade the fedora version >> using yum and a dvd which is a huge plus. The problem arises is that the >> cd/dvd repo itself is usually enabled by default after this. >> >> An update fails because it can't find the cd/dvd repo since your cd/dvd >> is not in the drive so it can't find it so the update fails. >> That is possibly a bug however I'm not sure of the status of that bug or >> even if it is considered a bug. >> >> The simplest method to fix it is disabling the repo and then voila >> yum-updatesd works by default updating the software. >> >> I hope thats clear because I personally have never experienced it >> since I've always just used yum upgrade and edited the config files manually. > > It is clear, but editing the configuration files manually is not the > appropriate solution for the DUG. Instead, the documentation should > indicate how the desktop user can use the Edit Repositories option in > pup and pirut. Again, focus on ease of use and GUI desktop usage > wherever possible. > >>>> You need to set up file-sharing which I would call desktop capability a >>>> server set up would be an administration part. I'm not trying to be >>>> pedantic but maybe my definition of desktop to administrator is >>>> different. >>> Setting up file sharing in the DUG is using System -> Preferences -> >>> Network -> Personal File Sharing. Anything beyond that is AG material. >>> >> Has anyone got that to work? I've never actually got it to function >> properly. > > It works if the firewall is disabled. This is not ideal, and I would > call this a bug unless both of us are doing something very wrong. I > thought one of the points of ConsoleKit was to be able to punch a hole > in the firewall for personal files sharing. In the meantime, I would > simply document the behavior indicating that the user should consult the > AG for firewall configuration info. > >> I've got a lot of questions like this which is the essence of the >> original email. Can we put together a list of what topics should be >> covered and to what limits each category should move to. Then we have a >> target to move towards? > > Unfortunately I don't have the cycles to do it, but you are welcome and > encouraged to start such a list, and float it to the mailing list for > discussion. I think that's a very thoughtful process, and I'm sure > others will pitch in their ideas. > >
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