Karsten Wade wrote:
I notice it and don't agree with you.
Rahul, don't make me waste time explaining why making an open source
project have a good infrastructure is necessary. One word explains it
-- leverage.
Steering committee or elections for who would be in the steering
committee is overhead. In a large team it might yield some visible
benefits but it seems that kind of overhead is unnecessary for a small
team. I mean, if everybody who is really part of the documentation team
is part of the steering committee who are you steering?
Infrastructure improvements is all well and good and I have suggested
several myself including atleast one of what is part of the current
Google SoC work now so I do understand the value of that.
Also, do you think you should dictate what people spend their time on?
If someone wants to work on tools instead of content, who cares? Who
are you to try to make people feel bad for working on what they are
interested in?
I am not dictating anything to anyone and I of course have zero control
on what people do so that's not the point but it is important to take a
step back and look at what we have accomplished that matters directly
for end users. I will say the only things that has mattered is
1) Installation guide
2) Release notes
Another is a very noticeable lack of content from Red Hat when we got
started; quite different from the rest of Fedora, who had an entire
distro to start with. Heck, even Infrastructure had more hardware to
start than Docs had content. Every other team, from Art to Engineering,
has had a paid person supporting the project, and therefore some kind of
budget. Everything we have done in Docs has been boot-strapped.
I have been through that flamewars and got that point through to
everyone I could possible but you know what? It's high time we moved on.
- And often those were the same people you are berating for spending
too much time dealing with "meetings, processes and tools".
That is indeed my point. If we focus more on end user documentation
could the same people have accomplished more instead of say dealing with
the election? Could the irc meetings be say monthly and more discussions
happen on list. Just maybe something to think about.
Everyone who is active is doing a good job. No doubt about that. The
question is only on whether we are having the right priorities here. My
suggestions are going to be simple
1) Dissolve the steering committee and associated elections etc
2) Try and reduce the barriers to the team itself so that we can spend
more time producing solid documentation for end users instead of dealing
with overhead.
Rahul
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