Karsten Wade <kwade <at> redhat.com> writes: > You might think it is preferable to use what has been invented at Red > Hat, where the resources exist for gcj work. It is not preferable. We > all want things to be interoperable and open. Knowing that we can swap > virtual machines means people get to make their own choice about free > notJavaVMs. Most of the free runtimes now largely pool together in the development of the class library by contributing to GNU Classpath, a free as in 'free software' implementation of the core java class libraries. You are not tied to the mercy of a single project: there is a whole ecosystem of runtimes targetting different needs, all willing to help their users, in my experience. > For the same reason, perhaps we can (at least) share testing data and > results with Debian people tackling the same issues. It would _rock_ if > we could get FOP to do everything well in all free scenarios. Russ Burton, Arnaud Vandyck & Danniel Bonniot are the debian people that are actively using or packaging fop on free runtimes there. I will contact them. > Perhaps an informal sub-committee? Just people interested in the topic, > keep part of the conversation, and volunteer. Sounds good to me. > What's next? > > Ideas: > > * Get a new sub-project into CVS (fedora-docs/toolchain? or somesuch > name). Tammy, Mark, and I can commit into this for now, acting as > conduits for changes from the rest of the project. > > * We need > ** Someone from kaffe Count me in. > ** Someone from gcj Mark Wielaard could probably recommend someone. > ** A willing FOP expert (either one who knows the code and use, or a > coder and an expert user) I'll get in touch with FOP developers. > ** A Debian liaison I'll try to find someone from Debian's Java side to participate. > Just some ideas. I really do mean, "What's next?" I'd also recommend getting in touch with the Java side of fedora, to see what their FOP packaging plans and requirements are. I believe that Thomas Fitzsimmons and Fernando Nasser are working on making JPackage work with gcj, they may be able to comment. cheers, dalibor topic