Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:If it were deleted or turned into some other sort of replication fix-up entry, then searching by> nscpEntryWsi: nsUniqueId: 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000 This looks like the entry before modification? What does the entry look like after modification? Another attribute you can use to uniquely identify an entry in a single backend is the entryid attribute. However, the entryid is not globally unique across all backends andreplicas.This above is the entry as it currently lives in LDAP. The NSUniqueID value there is the _new_ value. As I stated before: "I can also tell you that NSUniqueID was 19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000then changed to 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000"I don't think there is a way for me to search for the entry as it was before the modification is there?
(&(objectclass=nsTombstone)(nsuniqueid=19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000))should find it. I assume you already searched for (nsuniqueid=19d98481-1dd211b2-8023e758-74ea0000) and found nothing.
I can tell you that a mail attribute value was removed and added before this change in nsuniqueid occurred.So if you just remove and add a mail attribute value to any entry, does the nsuniqueid change happen? I'm assuming not, based on what you said. So something else has to happen to make the nsuniqueid value change.
This particular case seems strange to me. The first thing that happens to the entry is it's creation:
nscpEntryWsi: createTimestamp;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: 20070305235111ZnscpEntryWsi: creatorsName;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: uid=creator,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
At this time, many of the other attributes are added to the entry:nscpEntryWsi: userPassword;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: {crypt}xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
... nscpEntryWsi: uidNumber;vucsn-45ecada3000000010000: 12498 Then, sometime later, the posix attributes are added/modified:nscpEntryWsi: uid;vucsn-45eee916000000010000;mdcsn-45eee916000000010000: auser
...nscpEntryWsi: sn;adcsn-45eee916000100010000;vucsn-45eee916000100010000: User
This seems odd - were these attributes originally added with other values, then changed? Was the original dn uid=auser, or was this changed?
Then, sometime later, the mail attribute was changed:nscpEntryWsi: modifyTimestamp;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 20070514213629Z nscpEntryWsi: modifiersName;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: uid=modifier,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com nscpEntryWsi: mail;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser example com <mailto:auser%20example%20com> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser email example com <mailto:auser%20email%20example%20com> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: Another User example com <mailto:Another%20User%20example%20com>
> > Thanks again Richard. > --BO > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote: > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> > > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote: > > > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote: > > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> > > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>> > > > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> > <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote: > > > > That's the problem Richard, I'm not sure how it > > happens. I can tell > > > > you this much though. I am using NSUniqueID as a > globally > > unique id > > > > for a one-way sync agreement to a specific application > > (from FDS to > > > > the application). The requirement for the globally > unique > > id is > > > that > > > > it never changes. If it somehow does change, the sync > > process > > > > provides an error stating that the globally unique > ids in FDS > > > and the > > > > application no longer match. I can't determine exactly > > what is > > > > causing this change, but I do know that it is happening. > > > But how does the sync process/application determine > that the > > unique ID > > > has changed? And is it possible that some application is > > writing > > > to the > > > nsUniqueID attribute and changing its value > externally? Are > > you using > > > replication? > > > > > > > > > There is no application that has write access to our LDAP > user tree. > > > I am using a dual multi-master replication setup. What about > > > replication would cause the NSUniqueID to change? > > If you delete an entry then add it back with the same DN and > mail > > value, > > it will generate a new nsUniqueID for the new entry. Also, > certain > > replication operations may generate replication conflict > entries. In > > this case, you could see two entries with the same mail > attribute but > > different nsUniqueID values and different DNs. > > > > > > The entry was not deleted, only the mail attribute was > modified. The > > RDN contains the uid of the entry. > Could you perhaps post the entry before and after the modification? I > would really like to see the entry with all of the replication state > information. You can get this by listing the special attribute > nscpEntryWsi e.g. > ldapsearch .... (nsuniqueid=value) nscpEntryWsi > > Be sure to obscure any sensitive information before posting. If there > is a lot of output, you can use pastebin.com <http://pastebin.com> <http://pastebin.com> > or rafb.net <http://rafb.net> <http://rafb.net> to avoid > spamming the list. > > > > To check for this, do a search for each of the "duplicate" > nsUniqueID > > values using a search filter like this: > > (|(nsuniqueid=value1)(objectclass=nsTombstone)) > > and > > (|(nsuniqueid=value2)(objectclass=nsTombstone)) > > > > > > The first filter returns nothing (implying that there are no > entries > > in the directory with objectclass=nsTombstone). > Replication update procedures may create tombstones. Those entries do > not show up unless you specify that filter in your search request. So > if the entry is a tombstone, and you did a search for > (nsuniqueid=value) > the entry would not be returned unless you added > |(objectclass=nsTombstone) to the search filter. > > The second filter returns the entry in question. That seems to be > > what one would normally expect if there hadn't been a change in the > > nsuniqueid, correct? > Yes. > > > > > > > > For example, does your sync app do something like this: > > > get entry by name e.g . (uid=somename). Store the > > nsUniqueID for > > > the entry. > > > Then later, do the same search (uid=somename) and get the > > nsUniqueID. > > > Compare the nsUniqueID to the one stored previously. > > > > > > > > > That is nearly exactly how the sync application > works. For any > > entry > > > that the application keeps track of, it keeps a 'lastseen' > LDIF. on > > > the next run of the sync, a search is performed and the > LDIFs are > > > compared. > > > > > > If this is the case, is it possible that the uid for the > > entry has > > > changed? > > > > > > > > > No, the only change made to the entry in question was to > the 'mail' > > > attribute. > > > > > > > --BO > > > > > > > > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> > > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>> > > > <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> > > > > <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> > 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