Re: NSUniqueID

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Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
I've edited out the personal/company details, but here is the result of the query. Looks interesting, I've never seen this before. Is there a good section in the docs on how to read this?
No. It's not intended for users to read. It's mostly interesting for developers, for debugging purposes.

dn: uid=auser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
nscpEntryWsi: dn: uid=auser,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
nscpEntryWsi: modifyTimestamp;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: 20070514213629Z nscpEntryWsi: modifiersName;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: uid=modifier,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com nscpEntryWsi: mail;adcsn-4648d7560000000b0000;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:auser@xxxxxxxxxxx> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: auser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:auser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> nscpEntryWsi: mail;vucsn-4648d7560000000b0000: Another.User@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Another.User@xxxxxxxxxxx>
nscpEntryWsi: entrydn: uid=auser,ou=people,dc=example,dc=com
nscpEntryWsi: entryid: 2803
<snip>
nscpEntryWsi: nsUniqueId: 647b2b01-1dd211b2-80c7e758-74ea0000
This looks like the entry before modification? What does the entry look like after modification? Another attribute you can use to uniquely identify an entry in a single backend is the entryid attribute. However, the entryid is not globally unique across all backends and replicas.

Thanks again Richard.
--BO

On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
    > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
    > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
    >
    >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
    >     > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* < rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
    >     <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    >     > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
    >     >
    >     >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
    >     >     > That's the problem Richard, I'm not sure how it
    >     happens.  I can tell
    >     >     > you this much though.  I am using NSUniqueID as a
    globally
    >     unique id
    >     >     > for a one-way sync agreement to a specific application
    >     (from FDS to
    >     >     > the application).  The requirement for the globally
    unique
    >     id is
    >     >     that
    >     >     > it never changes.  If it somehow does change, the sync
    >     process
    >     >     > provides an error stating that the globally unique
    ids in FDS
    >     >     and the
    >     >     > application no longer match.  I can't determine exactly
    >     what is
    >     >     > causing this change, but I do know that it is happening.
    >     >     But how does the sync process/application determine
    that the
    >     unique ID
    >     >     has changed?  And is it possible that some application is
    >     writing
    >     >     to the
    >     >     nsUniqueID attribute and changing its value
    externally?  Are
    >     you using
    >     >     replication?
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > There is no application that has write access to our LDAP
    user tree.
    >     > I am using a dual multi-master replication setup.  What about
    >     > replication would cause the NSUniqueID to change?
    >     If you delete an entry then add it back with the same DN and
    mail
    >     value,
    >     it will generate a new nsUniqueID for the new entry.  Also,
    certain
    >     replication operations may generate replication conflict
    entries.  In
    >     this case, you could see two entries with the same mail
    attribute but
    >     different nsUniqueID values and different DNs.
    >
    >
    > The entry was not deleted, only the mail attribute was
    modified.  The
    > RDN contains the uid of the entry.
    Could you perhaps post the entry before and after the modification?  I
    would really like to see the entry with all of the replication state
    information.  You can get this by listing the special attribute
    nscpEntryWsi e.g.
    ldapsearch .... (nsuniqueid=value) nscpEntryWsi

    Be sure to obscure any sensitive information before posting.  If there
    is a lot of output, you can use pastebin.com <http://pastebin.com>
    or rafb.net <http://rafb.net> to avoid
    spamming the list.
    >
    >     To check for this, do a search for each of the "duplicate"
    nsUniqueID
    >     values using a search filter like this:
    >     (|(nsuniqueid=value1)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
    >     and
    >     (|(nsuniqueid=value2)(objectclass=nsTombstone))
    >
    >
    > The first filter returns nothing (implying that there are no
    entries
    > in the directory with objectclass=nsTombstone).
    Replication update procedures may create tombstones.  Those entries do
    not show up unless you specify that filter in your search request.  So
    if the entry is a tombstone, and you did a search for
    (nsuniqueid=value)
    the entry would not be returned unless you added
    |(objectclass=nsTombstone) to the search filter.
    > The second filter returns the entry in question.  That seems to be
    > what one would normally expect if there hadn't been a change in the
    > nsuniqueid, correct?
    Yes.
    >
    >     >
    >     >     For example, does your sync app do something like this:
    >     >     get entry by name e.g . (uid=somename).  Store the
    >     nsUniqueID for
    >     >     the entry.
    >     >     Then later, do the same search (uid=somename) and get the
    >     nsUniqueID.
    >     >     Compare the nsUniqueID to the one stored previously.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > That is nearly exactly how the sync application
    works.  For any
    >     entry
    >     > that the application keeps track of, it keeps a 'lastseen'
    LDIF.  on
    >     > the next run of the sync, a search is performed and the
    LDIFs are
    >     > compared.
    >     >
    >     >     If this is the case, is it possible that the uid for the
    >     entry has
    >     >     changed?
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > No, the only change made to the entry in question was to
    the 'mail'
    >     > attribute.
    >     >
    >     >     > --BO
    >     >     >
    >     >     > On 5/15/07, *Richard Megginson* <rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
    >     <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    >     >     <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
    >     >     > <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>
    >     <mailto: rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
    <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
    >     >     >
    >     >     >     Bjorn Oglefjorn wrote:
    >     >     >     > Hello all,
    >     >     >     >
    >     >     >     > Can someone tell me, does the NSUniqueID
    attribute ever
    >     >     change for a
    >     >     >     > given entry in the directory?
    >     >     >     No.
    >     >     >     > If so (I've seen it happen),
    >     >     >     Can you describe exactly what you saw and how to
    >     reproduce it?
    >     >     >     > what are the criteria that prompt NSUniqeID to
    change?
    >     >     >     >
    >     >     >     > Thanks,
    >     >     >     > BO
    >     >     >     >
    >     >     >
    >     >
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