Re: compat-python, Zope...

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Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
James Antill wrote:
On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 13:02 +0200, Oliver Falk wrote:

First of all: I *will* package compat-python and Zope/Plone, because I need it at work. The only question is if Fedora/FESCo wants me to share my work with the Fedora community or not!
 From what I remember the previous person who wanted python in Fedora
was also willing to create/maintain a compat-python24 package. But
that's not the only problem.

I can think of a Python 2.4 package that lives within the Zope tree to make it extra hard for others to use it by accident - but I don't think that this would be neat, seen from a FHS point of view.
 In some ways this might be doable, at least it has less pain points
than packaging it "properly".

I'm not a big fan of third party repositories. DOT. This would lead to an extra discussion...

a) I maintain Zope/Plone (+ deps, eg. compat-python) in Fedora
b) I maintain it on my *private* company repo
c) NOTE!: I guess this will lead to packages a la compat-python24-{elementtree,feedparser,imaging,lxml,setuptools,psycopg} and maybe a whole bunch of others...
 C is the biggest problem, in that "someone" has to dup all the modules
people need ... which also need to be kept in sync. ... and you need to
make sure that python-foo doesn't pull in compat-python24-bar (and vice
versa).


If C really is the biggest issue, we could look at what Debian is doing
in this area.  They have a package (I think it's called python-central
although that might be the old package and they have a newer one that
takes its place) which aids them in putting the python source modules in
a central store.  Then the modules are byte compiled for every python
that is installed on the system.  I'm not certain of how it works or
whether it is hacky in practice, just aware of its existence.

You mean, if someone installs python-foo, it gets compiled for all compat-python?? and python installed on the system? I don't think this a very good idea (sounds like this kernel-module-automagic-rebuild-for-new-kernel-whatever-it-was-called stuff. dkms or such!?).

How can we make sure the module *really* compiles if not done inside of koji? And you put an extra effort on all python-foo packagers, as they might need to maintain patches for the old pythons...

Is there anyone here with some Debian experience who can point us to a
better piece of information than what I just gave?

I'm - of course - interested in this 'technology', but I don't think it's good for Fedora.

-of

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