Re: please deactivate services by default!

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Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:29 -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Actually, working by default for things like smartctl is also really important (I'd like to know if my HD is about to go belly-up, thank you!), but at least we have the excuse that smartctl never worked nicely to begin with.

But see, it doesn't "work by default".  By default (with sendmail) mail
is just dropped in /var/spool/mail/root.

First, I'm not talking about root's mail. Second, how does local mail not work? I get 'you have mail' notifications just fine (granted, bash isn't as obnoxious about it as it could be, i.e. it seems like some days I don't see a notification, but...). 'mail' is able to read and manage my spool. What's the problem?

This discussion prior to when I jumped in had given the impression that local mail would stop working. I've already expressed (numerous times) why I think that would be a Very Bad Thing.

The user is given no hint, documentation, or otherwise notification
that they may want to configure some email client to subscribe to
this, which is quite difficult as a normal user to subscribed to
/var/spool/mail/root.

True. However, while I agree this is a real problem, it's somewhat different from (though related to) the problem I'm concerned about.

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