Colin Walters writes: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jochen Schmitt <Jochen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > David A. Wheeler schrieb: > >> I think it's clear from this discussion here that many people DO > >> find non-X console mode useful, and thus, it shouldn't be removed: > >> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: > > I agree with you, that a release of Fedora without non-x mode console > > may be > > a disadvantage. > > > > Blind or low vision people may prefer non-X mode consoles. And I think > > there are other > > peoples with such prefernces too. > > For such use cases, an X terminal emulator such as gnome-terminal > should be indistinguishable. Except that all the OS infrastructure > like DBus, sound, etc. will be available and work. > You're assuming the X-based assistive technology will become at least as performant as the non X technology is today. I certainly don't regard this to be impossible. I simply note we're not there. But, I suspect we would also need multiple x-terms. Cramming this all into one tty won't cut it from the perspective of reliable access to particular applications. I realize emacspeak actually does it in one tty, by providing a list of virtual buffers. But that's an interaction model that doesn't work for everyone--probably for similar reasons that vi and emacs have their strong partisans even in the a11y community. It's a different model for getting from where I am to where I want to go next. Janina > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@xxxxxxxx Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@xxxxxxxx Linux Foundation http://a11y.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list