I routinely use text mode console without X, for a variety of reasons. For example: * I have a number of systems (servers) at runlevel 3 * console is critically important when X fails. "Log in with ssh" doesn't work when ssh or the network fails. * It's often much simpler to quickly log in to do a small task rather than waiting for all the X + desktop startup stuff * I have some systems that have GUIs but not X at all (e.g., use DirectFB directly to the framebuffer)... and I sometimes need a recovery method, just like I do for X I think it's clear from this discussion here that many people DO find non-X console mode useful, and thus, it shouldn't be removed: Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski: > It does matter, since the removal affects me (and some other people, apparently), > while just keeping it means it will continue to work as it does now. The complaints about non-X console mode failing to support "multiple fonts" are irrelevant. I do not WANT text-mode console to support multiple fonts; that would interfere with console mode's advantages (e.g., small size, often works even when X fails). When I want fonts, I'll use X. --- David A. Wheeler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list