On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 12:23 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 17:52 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote: > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > > Ultimately nothing can stop the user from using cvs tag -F, so any > > > solution (including this one, which I like a lot) would have to be > > > server-side. > > > > That's what they're planning to do, despite many objections. When will > > the FeSCo minutes be available on the wiki ? I would like to know who > > voted for this. > > I'm planning to write up the summary later today, but the IRC logs are > available as soon as the meeting ends. > > http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/ jwb> so we've had vocal feedback on this i think a simple vote is in order dgilmore> your saying you want FESCo to control Makefile.common jwb> i'm saying FESCo was elected to represent our developer and user communities, and changes that impact them should at least be run past FESCo Actually, may I respectfully suggest that FESCo should try and stay out of matters like this insofar as possible? IMHO, FESCo should merely be trying to reflect the "rough consensus" of the rest of the community. e.g. in this example, a rough consensus is forming on the list along the lines of: 1) "force-tag" is used by a number of packagers for reasonably valid reasons that don't conflict with the tracking of what sources were used for a given build 2) We could disallow (on the server-side) re-tagging if a build has completed, or is in progress, using that tag 3) Or we could track the CVS/Entries for a given build FESCo need not play any role here beyond keeping an eye on the progress of this rough consensus - i.e. that the original change is being reverted and the relevant maintainers (and others) are hashing out the implementation of either suggestion. FESCo taking a position via a vote is not helpful, IMHO. Cheers, Mark. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list