On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:58:09PM -0400, Chris Snook wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: >> Back in December, I had made a change that blocked kernel-devel packages >> from winding up in the install media for the Fedora spin. I don't >> recall getting any push back at the time, but I've gotten at least one >> angry comment since then. So I'm putting it out for more discussion. >> Do we feel that the kernel-devel (5~megs) should be in the install >> media? > > Yes please. There's always new hardware we don't support yet, so some > people will need to build drivers just to get online and access the > repos. If we ship it on the install media, it's much easier to > distribute code that you're reasonably confident will work on a new > install. If people have to hunt down matching kernel and kernel-devel > rpms, it's a moving target for people working on these device drivers. > > I'm not saying we should bend over backwards for out-of-tree drivers, but > this is precisely the scenario that determines the first impression for > someone trying this "Linux" thing on their shiny new bleeding-edge box, > and it's pretty easy to accomodate. Erm... if this is the first time someone is trying a shiny new "Linux" thing on a bleeding edge box, and they have to grab a kernel-devel package and build drivers _themselves_, then they are obviously smart enough to run 'yum install kernel-devel'. Somehow I think your example is slightly off. I don't know many Linux newbies that know 1) that they need to build a driver, 2) what driver to build, and 3) what packages they need to build it all without knowing how to install anything. <jedi> These are not the people you are targeting. They know enough to not require kernel-devel on the install media. You can move on to finding some other use case that makes sense. </jedi> josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
