On Monday, 15 September 2008 at 20:15, Doug Ledford wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 12:23 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 17:52 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote: > > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > > > Ultimately nothing can stop the user from using cvs tag -F, so any > > > > solution (including this one, which I like a lot) would have to be > > > > server-side. > > > > > > That's what they're planning to do, despite many objections. When will > > > the FeSCo minutes be available on the wiki ? I would like to know who > > > voted for this. > > > > I'm planning to write up the summary later today, but the IRC logs are > > available as soon as the meeting ends. > > > > http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/ > > So, this is to dgilmore, bpepple, jds2001, and nirik (the 4 people that > voted for this action): you have just made it highly likely that you > will not ever get my vote to participate as a member of FESCo again (I > don't say this as a threat, just to let you know that your actions in > this endeavor so directly counter what I want/expect out of FESCo that I > don't consider you the right people for the job any more). +1 /me makes a note not to vote for these as well. [snip - excellent call] > Look guys, maybe what we have here is a case of mis-communication. So, > let me communicate what I expect out of FESCo/Fedora. Maybe I'm wrong > and my expectations are unreasonable. If so, I'll accept that answer. > But what I saw here was what I would expect to see in some proprietary > company under a self imposed deadline that cuts corners to get the job > done. I don't participate in Fedora for that. I participate in Fedora > because it's *supposed* to be the a place where we put quality above > expediency and we don't just do things, we do them right. In fact, I > care about that so much that it is definitely a valid voting item as far > as I'm concerned. I don't see this as being anywhere close to doing > things right, this is a sloppy, half-assed attempt to deal with a > legitimate problem by not actually dealing with it at all. I won't vote > for that, so by extension I won't vote for people that support doing > things this way. If I'm in the wrong place, and Fedora is about doing > things the expedient way instead of the right way, let me know and I'll > let you be. +1 And coming from someone @redhat.com, this is saying a lot. Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann Livna http://rpm.livna.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list