On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Jerry James <loganjerry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> If you want to run terminal applications, can't you just log in to a >> full screen gnome-terminal? > > I got the impression that Janina was talking about those who need > audio to be able to login in the first place. Probably both. In any case, our answer is GDM and gnome-terminal. > Those have been useful to me in a lot of circumstances that I don't > see going away anytime soon. Here are a few just off the top of my > head. > > 1. It's late. I'm tired. I log out, then remember some small system > administration task I meant to do. Rather than wait for all the GUI > stuff to reload as I log back in, it is much faster to switch to a > text console, login there, do my task, then log back out. "Login is slow" - something we know about and makes sense to fix, rather than having an entirely different way to log in. Another answer is that if you hold down a magic key sequence (say Ctrl-Shift-t) then you get just gnome-terminal. > 2. I'm playing some game that runs at a low resolution and it crashes. > I don't know why, but my mouse is almost always nonfunctional > afterwards. When my desktop is at 320x200 and I can't use the mouse, > regaining control is difficult. I often switch to a text console so I > can clean up some running programs in a nice way before I > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get my X back. First, fix the app. Second, invest some in making the system robust against applications that crash. Third, land http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CrashHandling so you don't need to use GDB manually. > 3. I launch some X program that consumes 100% CPU and is clearly out > of control. In those cases, the mouse becomes sluggish. It can take > a very long time to either launch a gnome-terminal or get the mouse > over a gnome-terminal so I can click on it, have the click actually > move the focus to that window, type the command to kill the process, > have the typed text actually show up on the gnome-terminal, press the > Enter key, then wait the shell to process the command. It is MUCH > faster to switch to a text console, login, kill the process, logout, > and switch back to X. I don't see that problem here with an app just burning a core. Now if you're in swap, obviously that's a whole other issue. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
