On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If you want to run terminal applications, can't you just log in to a > full screen gnome-terminal? I got the impression that Janina was talking about those who need audio to be able to login in the first place. > We're going to be removing the legacy non-X system consoles by default > in the long run. Those have been useful to me in a lot of circumstances that I don't see going away anytime soon. Here are a few just off the top of my head. 1. It's late. I'm tired. I log out, then remember some small system administration task I meant to do. Rather than wait for all the GUI stuff to reload as I log back in, it is much faster to switch to a text console, login there, do my task, then log back out. 2. I'm playing some game that runs at a low resolution and it crashes. I don't know why, but my mouse is almost always nonfunctional afterwards. When my desktop is at 320x200 and I can't use the mouse, regaining control is difficult. I often switch to a text console so I can clean up some running programs in a nice way before I Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get my X back. (I have this happen quite often with one particular game that my 9 year old likes. I'd run it in GDB so I can get a backtrace and file a proper bug report, except when it crashes I can't SEE the backtrace because my screen is at 320x200 and my mouse is dead. Argh!) 3. I launch some X program that consumes 100% CPU and is clearly out of control. In those cases, the mouse becomes sluggish. It can take a very long time to either launch a gnome-terminal or get the mouse over a gnome-terminal so I can click on it, have the click actually move the focus to that window, type the command to kill the process, have the typed text actually show up on the gnome-terminal, press the Enter key, then wait the shell to process the command. It is MUCH faster to switch to a text console, login, kill the process, logout, and switch back to X. Once you can guarantee that X programs won't consume 100% CPU or crash while in a different screen resolution from my desktop, and can guarantee that logging into an X session is below the human time perception threshold, then I'll be ready to give up text consoles. Until then, I want them. -- Jerry James http://loganjerry.googlepages.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
