On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 17:15 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > That seems the most feasible solution to me. Java applets to connect > to an appropriate channel from the fedora website would also be useful > (to ease the barrier to entry) As one of the current OP's #fedora, I think that starting with a basic #fedora channel guideline would be the best way to start. Then the users would know what is tolerated and what is not, it would also cover guidelines for the OP's as far as code of conduct and what is grounds for a ban/kick including time frames for each. When I became and OP 2 years ago it was here you go your an OP now. This was done due to the lack of OPs at the time. Several of us were thrown into this position this way. Not a good way to start in the channel. It would have been nice to have a reference at that time. I am also one of the "Helpers" in the channel, I help many people to the best of my ability. I do know quite a bit as I have been running *nix since 1998 but I still have many things to learn. So I agree with the proposed training sessions. I am also one of the founders of Fedora Unity and the reason we set it up was to document many of the items that could not be covered in the Installation Guide due to legalities. I think we have done a pretty good job but it would be nice if we could do better. I am all for the the changes and believe it needs to start with guidelines first, all the other things could be implemented at a later time but the guidelines are needed NOW!! The guidelines would instantly improve the quality of the channel in short time. V/R Scott Glaser Fedora Unity -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list