-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger <at> gmail.com> writes: >>> Err... the last time this came up it was successfully argued that >>> having "Help" fail to work was a bug. The initial idea was to have >>> something within the GNOME stack require yelp but I believe that >>> failed because of circular dependencies. >>> >>> So if this will cause problems because of system-config-* dragging in >>> xulrunner we need to come up with some other way of solving the >>> help-won't-display bug. >> >> IMHO it is not a bug, help is an optional feature, and we have tight >> size constraints on the live images. >> >> We also faced a similar issue with KDE 3 apps dragging in all the KDE >> 4 stack because khelpcenter is now from KDE 4, there too (even though >> this probably doesn't affect any of the live images) we decided to not >> put a dependency in and to simply have help in KDE 3 apps only work if >> the KDE 4 kdebase-runtime is installed (which will always be the case >> in a KDE installation anyway). >> > Giving a newbie a linux live cd to try without having help files is far > from ideal. Ways to solve the problem are appreciated. Reasons why you > consider it an optional feature rather than an integral part of the user > experience will be listened to and either argued with or create > converts. Merely claiming size constraints is not likely to create > change -- the x86_64 spins of both the live Desktop and live KDE spins > are both larger than a CD already. > So make yelp Provides: gnome-help-viewer and have packages that have help files require it instead? That way, live CDs can override this by having a stub package. Ditto with kdebase-runtime providing kde-help-viewer (hm, sounds like the next thing for FD.o to standardize: help viewing) - -- Michel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhNi0UACgkQWt0J3fd+7ZClJACcDveLk7iu8fkLqGMvf/MEPzOZ YFcAn1pQG2Cl4hS/XCOxuxEsxsP8SS4x =Pw6a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list