Re: Plan for tomorrows (20080529) FESCO meeting: FTBFS bugs

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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please find below the list of topics that are likely to come up in the
> next FESCo meeting that is scheduled for tomorrow, Thursday at 17:00 UTC
> in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.org:
> 
> /topic FESCo meeting --
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/SponsorResponsibilityPolicy -- bpepple
> 
> topic FESCO-Meeting -- FESCo Responsibilities/Role -- all
> 
> /topic FESCo meeting -- Free discussion around Fedora
> 
> You want something to be discussed? Send a note to the list in reply to
> this mail and I'll add it to the schedule.  You can also propose topics
> in the meeting while it is in the "Free discussion around Fedora" phase.


One thing that came up in today's QA meeting was a desire to remove
packages from the repository that "Fail To Build From Source" [1] for
several months leading up to a Beta release when there is no
resolution in sight.  I'm currently doing a rawhide rebuild, and
expect on the order of 350 packages currently in rawhide to fail to
rebuild.  There are at least 144 which are known to not rebuild, which
have bugs filed blocking the FTBFS bug [2] (or one of its decendants).
I'll file additional bugs later this week based on my rawhide run.

There are at least these many in rawhide today with "old" dist tags
which have failed for me in the past week:

.fc6: 12

gdmap-0.7.5-6.fc6.src.rpm
aiksaurus-1.2.1-15.fc6.src.rpm
ht2html-2.0-5.fc6.src.rpm
lineak-defaultplugin-0.9-2.fc6.src.rpm
lineak-xosdplugin-0.9-2.fc6.src.rpm
lineakd-0.9-5.fc6.src.rpm
oooqs2-1.0-3.fc6.src.rpm
orpie-1.4.3-5.fc6.src.rpm
qa-assistant-0.4.90.5-2.fc6.src.rpm
scim-skk-0.5.2-8.fc6.src.rpm
soundtracker-0.6.8-2.fc6.src.rpm

.fc7: 27

svnmailer-1.0.8-3.fc7.src.rpm
conexusmm-0.5.0-3.fc7.src.rpm
moto4lin-0.3-6.fc7.src.rpm
SOAPpy-0.11.6-6.fc7.src.rpm
fluxstyle-1.0.1-2.fc7.src.rpm
fonttools-2.0-0.11.20060223cvs.fc7.src.rpm
fontypython-0.2.0-6.fc7.src.rpm
gl-117-1.3.2-4.fc7.src.rpm
gstm-1.2-6.fc7.src.rpm
gtk-sharp-1.0.10-12.fc7.src.rpm
gtksourceview-sharp-2.0-25.fc7.src.rpm
junitperf-1.9.1-2jpp.1.fc7.src.rpm
kphotobymail-0.4.1-1.fc7.src.rpm
mbuffer-20070502-1.fc7.src.rpm
pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.5-9.336svn.fc7.src.rpm
pekwm-0.1.5-5.fc7.src.rpm
plague-0.4.4.1-4.fc7.src.rpm
python-durus-3.5-3.fc7.src.rpm
python-pydns-2.3.0-5.fc7.src.rpm
python-simpletal-4.1-5.fc7.src.rpm
python-tpg-3.1.0-4.fc7.src.rpm
python-urljr-1.0.1-1.fc7.src.rpm
pyzor-0.4.0-11.fc7.src.rpm
qps-1.9.19-0.2.b.fc7.src.rpm
ruby-bdb-0.6.0-1.fc7.src.rpm
rudeconfig-5.0.5-1.fc7.src.rpm
sblim-wbemcli-1.5.1-5.fc7.src.rpm

(and of course there are packages with no dist tag which fail too) so
the number of packages we'd consider here isn't huge, but is nonzero.

Please consider adopting a policy regarding packages which continue to
fail to build from source for a given distribution.  These packages
need attention, if only because we have disabled F6 buildroots which
would be necessary to build and fix a bug in such a package package in
the F9 release.  I agree with Will Woods' suggestion (pardon if I
mis-attribute) that such cutoff point should be the Beta cut of the
next version of the release.



[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FTBFS
[2] FTBFS bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440169

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Matt Domsch
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