2008/5/21 Adam Jackson <ajax@xxxxxxxxxx>: > On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 19:19 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote: > >> > In the real world, you're asking Fedora to do something to enable >> > binary drivers which goes against it's goals. And then you're whining >> > about it when we say no. >> >> Oh yea, to have one developer spend one day to provide a compatibility >> route for a large number of Fedora users is just *way* too much to >> ask...sheesh... >> >> I'm not asking for someone to spend a year full time on this, it would >> only take about one day's worth of effort as far as I can see. > > That's so adorably misguided. > > Let's see. Compat packages for the X server and every driver. That's > about sixty new packages, all of which have to go through new package > review. Even if they're all perfect, you're looking at a good 30 > minutes apiece just to get the things into CVS, then another hour or so > until everything manages to bubble out of koji. Except, of course, that > they won't be perfect, since they'll file-conflict with the non-compat > drivers. So you'll have to add explicit Conflicts to each of now ~120 > packages. Okay, more like an hour for each package now, since we're > having to test packaging behaviour. Ooh, and now we're picking up an > additional set of packages to apply stability fixes to. > > So, uh. A week and a half of doing _nothing_ _else_, when I'm already > clearly overscheduled. A good solid sixty hours of work, plus a > continuing time investment of essentially a whole new current distro to > support, a level of time investment that I wouldn't sign up for for > RHEL for less than seven figures of revenue. All to continue to make > some binary driver work. > > How's no sound? Is no good for you? No's great for me. > > Let me put this as politely as possible: compatibility X server packages > are out of the fucking question. I've refused them in paid supported > products for strong technical and support reasons, and I'm not about to > start doing them for free just to get my jollies preserving > interoperability with someone's binary blob. Pfft, you dont have to put these through review, you dont have to do a QA on them, you just have to take the f8 rpms and rebuild them on f9, stick them in updates-testing and be done with it. One or two days tops, nothing more. Sheesh.... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list