On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 09:49:59AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:58 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > And, the usual rhetorical question, why so much people like the idea > > of forcibly ensuring that the users won't learn anything, ever? > > Users don't want to "learn", why should you FORCE users to "learn" > something ? I'm not forcing them to learn anything, I'm just giving them the opportunity. Some people seem to be bent on ensuring that such an opportunity will *not* be presented, ever, by reducing the amount of presented information to the absolute minimum necessary for survival if everything goes well, and sometimes even less than that. And it looks like my users are not your users. Pretty much everybody new to linux I've seen like to learn, especially when it's incidental to their use. They even like the text messages, because the green "OK" boxes give them confidence that all is going well, the waiting is perfectly normal, the computer just has a lot of things to do. Even the occasional red error message is good. It pushes them to ask questions about it (to friends, to google, to forums), makes them understand a little more about their computer, and they *like* that. Probably something about being in control and informed rather than handled and considered unable to understand. Which is a feeling I've heard numerous times about the windows environment and its applications. "It says there's an error and I have to call my administrator and nothing unseful. What am I supposed to do? I don't have an administrator, it's my computer I paid for." > I personally like the option of *not* seeing ugly text messages at boot, > even if I perfectly understand what they mean and find them useful when > there is an error. If you find information ugly, why do you use a computer? An icon blinking for a while with nothing else seemingly happening and with no other information, _now_ that's ugly. OG. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
