On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:58 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 01:07:51PM -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > > 2) Hiding boot messages before gdm unless escape key is pressed. For > > graphics hardware that has drm modesetting, we'll be able to show some > > sort of pretty graphics, and for everyone else we'll show a very > > simple text mode progress. > > Here we go again. > > Are you going to wait for the escape key to be pressed or not for a > little while, or are we going to have to press just at the right time > between grub and modeswitch if we want to have a chance to check for > problems? I hope it will always allow you to switch on the fly to the full log at any time or it will be a problem in many cases. > Is there going to be an easy way (like there is with rhgb) to see the > messages (including history) while booting, to check for problems too? I hope so. > And, the usual rhetorical question, why so much people like the idea > of forcibly ensuring that the users won't learn anything, ever? Users don't want to "learn", why should you FORCE users to "learn" something ? I personally like the option of *not* seeing ugly text messages at boot, even if I perfectly understand what they mean and find them useful when there is an error. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list