Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 10:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :
And why are the jpackage tomcat RPMS upstream for our RPMS? It seems
quite plain from the changelog you quoted that they are not.
So the kernel packages are not downstreamed from kernel.org? They have a
lot more fedora-specific patches.
1) Last I looked, kernel.org didn't release SRPMS.
2) The Fedora Tomcat package does not currently seem to be syncing
against JPackage. So JPackage is not the upstream for the tomcat
package. The source code in the kernel package, otoh, is being synced
against the source code on upstream kernel.org.
The fedora packages are rebased every once in a while. That's why it's
an upstream/downstream thing. The parts which are shared and reused are
bigger than the parts Fedora-specific (very often because the changes
have not been bushed jpp-side)
But that's not the case with the current tomcat package. The current
tomcat is a derivation of JPackage because it was started from the
JPackage package (by a different maintainer) but is not syncing changes
back and forth now. And there's nothing in FESCo policy or Packaging
Guidelines that mandate that this must happen.
Does there need to be a stronger connection between Fedora and JPackage
with a policy? Something that states that all Fedora java packages must
be in JPackage first and be based off of them? The results of this
discussion will probably influence that.
Note that has never been a demand. The demand has been to avoid
needlessly making the package flow and collaboration harder.
Very true. I'm saying that our current process is falling down. We
aren't to the point where we're getting the worst of both worlds (the
two worlds being: making packages which are totally separate from
JPackage and making packages which are only rebuilds of JPackage [or
even just including the JPackage repo]) but we're definitely not getting
the best of them. I think we need to swing the pendulum one way or the
other.
-Toshio
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