Am Sonntag, den 04.05.2008, 13:16 +1000 schrieb Rodd Clarkson: > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 04:18 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > > You chose Australia on timezone selection screen. > > > > > > Anaconda can't handle such specific needs without making GUI > > > obfuscated, and it works OK for most users already. > > > > > Oh great. X seems to work for most people, so let's just leave it at > that. It will make Ajax's work a lot easier. For that matter, the > kernel seems to work for most people so let's just leave it at that. > etc. > > > True, anaconda may not be able to handle it without obfuscating the GUI, > > and I don't think it's something that needs to be done during the > > installation or even during firstboot. > > Actually, while there needs to be tools to adjust it afterwards, this is > most definitely something anaconda should be getting right. > > You're average (non-advanced) users they are highly unlikely to know > that this can be managed some other way and will most likely just curse > and groan their way through each change they have to make at the > applications level to get it right. > > As an example, I have to change the paper settings in a number of places > in cups so that it knows I use A4 paper. Add to this that evince > doesn't honor this, so I have to tell it that I'm printing A4 otherwise > every thing is scaled down just a little. OOo also needs to be told > about my A4 habit because it doesn't seem to honor cup's settings > either. And that's just a start. > > Temperatures set to Fahrenheit. Measurements in inches, feet and yards. > > Getting this right at the install reaches deeply into the entire user > experience, and should be done right at the install. After all, once I > customize all these settings, a change to system-config-locale is > unlikely to see these settings changing accordingly. > > > > Advanced users can customize locale manually. Casual users want less > > > buttons and get work done faster. I vote for leaving it as is. > > I don't know what to say about this argument. You seem to be arguing > that it's okay that we get this wrong, because advanced users can work > around it. > > Besides, while I'm not sure I'm an advanced user, I also don't want to > either have to redo this every six months (with each release of fedora) > or ignore something that's broken just because it can fix it easily and > ignore how much it might inconvenience other less advanced users. > > I say it should be fixed. > > > R. > -- > "It's a fine line between denial and faith. > It's much better on my side" > Are you suggesting a "firstboot" for first time user logins? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
