On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 17:49 +0200, Stepan Kasal wrote: > I never doubted that this was not the _intention_. > And I would wish I were wrong. Well, then you get your wish, you're wrong. > > > However, rather than add one more non-lawyer-opinion into > > the mix I've asked if we can get a comment from legal about this. > > But the contributor is supposed to sign it, supposedly without > getting a legal advice. When did we ever say they should not seek legal advice for signing an agreement. I'm positive that's NEVER been suggested. > Couldn't the text be made more human-readable? I think it is very human readable. Your problems with it are confusing to me, in fact. I signed this license when I first starting working on fedora long before I started working for red hat. Nothing in the license bother me nor a lawyer friend of mine when I consulted him. > I really hate the system "it does not mean what it seems to mean, you > would never understand it, just sign it here". I don't know what YOU think it means but it means exactly what I think it means. Let's quote the whole section: 2. Contributor Grant of License. You hereby grant to Red Hat, Inc., on behalf of the Project, and to recipients of software distributed by the Project: * (a) a perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, fully paid-up, royalty free, irrevocable copyright license to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute your Contribution and such derivative works; and, See, I think the bit you're missing is that the contributor is not granting COPYRIGHT, they are granting a copyright LICENSE to red hat. It doesn't say red hat can relicense - only sublicense. Seriously, where did you get the idea otherwise? -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list