Hey, I just installed the Fedora 9 Beta release and am doing a full system update as we speak. While downloading the updates nothing is wrong.. it just downloads and that's it. But when installing the updates i get a ton of selinux notices!! and this is just a default Fedora 9 beta followed by a yum -y update. Also another issue that i noticed was when looking at a flash animation in firefox.. when i want to play the animation selinux (again) drops in and tells me i can't. (or i need to run a command to get it working). Now i've tried to run selinux on Fedora 7 and 8 for as long as possible just to see how long i can get around it.. i did some commands in that time as well but i always end up with disabling selinux. I have no idea how other users are using fedora in a normal every day usage without disabling selinux.. i agree that a firewall should be in linux but selinux just doesn't seem mature yet (if it will ever be). Perhaps it's time to start considering to turn off selinux and remove it out of the fedora kernel completely? As long as it's blaming here when i install updates or simply browse the web than selinux gets shut down completely! So.. how are you doing this? Btw.. justging from the selinux stats here: http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html it says that nearly 50% (48.4%) is turning off selinux. And my guess is that all fedora servers keep it on making up the other 50%. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list