On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 19:10 +0800, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Pavel Khardikov <sonic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hello, Izhar! > > > > Excuse me for not writting in this list for long time. > > > > I still have a great interest in Fedora and GSoC projects in particular. > > > > At one of my first letters Thorsten Leemhuis replied: > > > > "No idea - as I said, I just added the idea to the wiki. I have no ideas > > nor skills how to actually realize the WebUI, thus I don't think I can > > mentor this idea further and * * I don't have the time or interest for it. > > Sorry. " > > > > and > > > > > > "I'd suggest you contact J5, the developer of MyFedora. Maybe he can help > > to answer the question if a separate WebUI makes sense (which I doubt). " > > > > As I understood there is no sence to create another project that > > performs the same tasks and functions as MyFedora. > > Same goes for me, but looking Mockups, It looks a lot like PackageDB, > but with an improved UI .. so, in my mind, rather than making MyFedora > take PackageDB's ( http://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb | > https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ ) work, why dont extend PackageDB? > .. PackageDB code is already out there .. revamp the UI, add more > features .. I used the name "PackageWebUI" was because thats the title > in the Fedora GSOC Idea page .. but I would prefer an approach of > improving pkgdb rather than writing a new one.. > > my.fedoraproject.org / MyFedora - the name sounds more like a Fedora > AIO to me, and thats also what i understand from > > "my.fedoraproject.org is a project to integrate all of the Fedora > infrastructure in one place. The goal is to create a modular web page > in which each module would pull views from the various Fedora > resources and display them to the user.", > > and one of those modules, could be an integration to > PkgDB/PackageWebUI .. Unix philosophy: "Write programs that do one > thing and do it well." .. PkgDB focuses on packages, MyFedora focuses > on integrating the rest of Fedora infrastructure. Of course, provide a > way for all of them to communicate with each other > (JSON,XMLRPC,whatever). > > Or do J5 have different view about this?, both idea ( improve MyFedora > / improve PackageDB ) sounds okay to me, just that I feel that if > MyFedora implements those features, PackageDB and the effort made for > it previously would be rendered of no-use (or perhaps thats what one > of MyFedora's goal - to obsolete packagedb ) .. There is a balance here. For everything I have to pull from there is a cost in terms of calls I have to make to different backends per page along with the extra work to recreate the GUI for each module. The different backends are taking a tools centric approach to manipulating data where as My Fedora takes a more data centric approach (here is the data how would I like to manipulate and display). I agree the data side of it should be part of PackageDB but unless someone really wants to work on a separate PackageDB UI I would just have that be a simple dump of the database in a slightly nicer form. In any case my thoughts on the subject are logged somewhere else in the thread where I talk about Apps vs. Packages and how a separate app would look different from a My Fedora app. Read there. -- John (J5) Palmieri <johnp@xxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
