Hi All, Congrats on the Beta. Its (mostly) great, and I'm looking forward to the final release. It looks to be yet another rocking release. I updated from F8 + current updates to rawhide / nearly the beta late last week using yum so I'm not sure if this is part of the problem. Basically after a nearly a week of using I'm seeing a few small issues (random crashes etc). Knowing of the mass recompile from gcc 4.1 to 4.3 I assume there must be some binary incompatibility so I did a 'rpm -qa | grep fc8' to see what if any of the old F8 rpms were hanging around and why (possible 3rd party repo etc). I noticed that some of the build revisions of the F8 update is later than that in rawhide. I assume the fix would be to bump the rawhide version to be bigger than that of the F8 update. An example is imlib2. Build 6 for the F8 package, build 5 for the rawhide one (download.fedora.redhat.com gives me the same version so I don't think its a mirrors issue). Also don't know if some of the fc8 hangers on are due to them being replaced and not have obseletes set I realise some of the list are noarch so probably don't need rebuilds, but there looks to be a few small issues. I originally started poking because I noticed that pidgin was less than stable. Cheers, Pete [root@euuklonw7300b1n ~]# yum list imlib2 Loaded plugins: refresh-updatesd rawhide 100% |=========================| 2.4 kB 00:00 livna 100% |=========================| 2.1 kB 00:00 Installed Packages imlib2.x86_64 1.4.0-6.fc8 installed Available Packages imlib2.x86_64 1.4.0-5.fc9 rawhide imlib2.i386 1.4.0-5.fc9 rawhide My list of the fc8 rpm hang around list is: jomolhari-fonts-0.003-4.fc8.noarch ghostscript-fonts-5.50-18.fc8.noarch python-setuptools-0.6c7-2.fc8.noarch fedora-gnome-theme-8.0.0-1.fc8.noarch paktype-fonts-2.0-2.fc8.noarch sazanami-fonts-gothic-0.20040629-4.20061016.fc8.noarch fedora-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-1.fc8.noarch fedorainfinity-gdm-theme-8.0.1-1.fc8.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-truetype-7.2-3.fc8.noarch lklug-fonts-0.2.2-5.fc8.noarch fonts-sinhala-0.2.2-3.fc8.noarch cjkunifonts-uming-0.1.20060928-4.fc8.noarch fedora-icon-theme-1.0.0-1.fc8.noarch python-louie-1.1-2.fc8.noarch strace-4.5.16-2.fc8.x86_64 redhat-rpm-config-9.0.1-1.fc8.noarch kacst-fonts-1.6.2-2.fc8.noarch gnome-sharp-2.16.0-5.fc8.x86_64 fonts-arabic-2.1-2.fc8.noarch atlas-3.6.0-12.fc8.x86_64 culmus-fonts-0.101-4.fc8.noarch libsmbios-libs-0.13.13-1.fc8.x86_64 python-genshi-0.4.4-2.fc8.noarch elisa-0.3.2-1.fc8.noarch gnome-common-2.18.0-1.fc8.noarch redhat-lsb-3.1-19.fc8.x86_64 module-init-tools-3.4-2.fc8.x86_64 fonts-hebrew-0.101-2.fc8.noarch setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.4-4.fc8.noarch pyxdg-0.15-5.fc8.1.noarch fedorainfinity-screensaver-theme-1.0.0-1.fc8.noarch imlib2-1.4.0-6.fc8.x86_64 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list