Alexandre Oliva (aoliva@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > Once you remove the politics, > > ...that are the core of any mission, such as Fedora's stated mission, > and that make all of the difference in this case. No, they don't. Forks are *bad*. Maintaining them is *bad*. For initimately core packages, it's even worse. > > That's why were telling you to work in the upstream > > That won't work. Upstream doesn't value freedom like we do, 'We'? Excuse me? You do not speak for me. You do not speak for Fedora. You do not decide yourself what is relevant. I don't see you on the Board, where we decide these policies. I don't see you on FESCo, where we deal with implementation issues of the boards policies and engineering details. Believe me, you are free to run for either of those bodies, and free to make proposals to them. However, in both of those places, we've come up with very simple rules: - forks of packages generally require approval from the maintainers of the original versions of those packages - no alternative kernels or kernel modules allowed in Fedora Regardless of the politics that stand behind your proposal, those still apply. You don't get to randomly override them with a simple 'Oh, but this agrees with the Fedora mission!' And that's why your proposal as it stands isn't good enough for Fedora. > Fedora spin built exclusively out of Free Software, and instead > setting me off into an impossible mission as a pre-condition, that's > quite surprising and saddening. Another contributor! Stay awhile... stay forever! Seriously, those that maintain or help to maintain the Fedora kernel have told you *exactly* how this should be worked to be done, and make it acceptable for both you and for Fedora. I'm sorry the work might take slightly longer. I'm sorry that it may be harder to implement. But that is not really the problem of Fedora. I'd like to think we hold things to a somewhat higher standard than the cheap broken fix. Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
