On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:23 AM, dexter <dex.mbox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well its a real sad state of affairs that the fedora decision makers can't see > > the value in reducing everyones network footprint by default. I guess its > > just not sexy enuff. > > > Speaking as a Board member.... presto is one of a multitude of things > that I would absolute love to find a way to help make happen faster. > But you have to understand that I don't exactly have resources at my > disposal that I can assign to the task of doing the heavy lifting to > get presto into place.. or anything for that matter. Here's the hard > reality... one(if not the biggest) of the limiting factor for > everything the Fedora community is attempting to achieve is skilled > manpower. And since at the Board level I've no way to 'hire' > day-laborers to help get things done when they run into a roadblock. > We have to be more creative in how we generate manpower... the right > manpower. I have some ideas on that, but I'm not sure all of them > will work. But I'm trying to get my ducks in a row to attempt some of > them after the F9 release. > > It's unfortunate that Jonathan wasn't able to take presto all the way > to an integrated feature. > But as a project we have to expect this to happen and we need to start > preparing for it. Now that he's admited his limitations, its up to > the rest of the Fedora community to step in and take it the rest of > the way. Every single person who invests their time and their talents > to Fedora is a decision maker. We all decide what we work on as > individuals. If we as a community want to see presto become > integrated, then we as a community need to be willing to step up and > lend a helping hand. > > So here's the challenge. I need people who are willing to make a > larger commitment to Fedora as part of wanting to see presto happen. I > need those people to step up and volunteer to some sort of > infrastructure apprenticeship. I've no idea what that means exactly > at the moment, so it will be a sort of experiment. But I do know that > I want candidates to step forward, and I'll be talking to > infrastructure about selecting one or two people from that group to > mentor. > > I want this to be a somewhat competitive process. The goal here isn't > to shove 20 people at infrastructure and bog down that group's work. > The goal here is to make an investment in one or two people that I > feel could make a larger impact inside Fedora if they were given a > modest amount of mentoring in a new area. > > There are a lot of ideas floating around in terms of things to > integrate into our build system or our website offerings. We need to > find a way to build up the available manpower inside infrastructure to > integrate those items as each idea matures. > > -jef I have posted emails on opensuse mailing lists few weeks ago asking their deltarpm devels it they can help fedora project in some way with presto and deltarpm. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
