On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:23 AM, dexter <dex.mbox@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well its a real sad state of affairs that the fedora decision makers can't see > the value in reducing everyones network footprint by default. I guess its > just not sexy enuff. Speaking as a Board member.... presto is one of a multitude of things that I would absolute love to find a way to help make happen faster. But you have to understand that I don't exactly have resources at my disposal that I can assign to the task of doing the heavy lifting to get presto into place.. or anything for that matter. Here's the hard reality... one(if not the biggest) of the limiting factor for everything the Fedora community is attempting to achieve is skilled manpower. And since at the Board level I've no way to 'hire' day-laborers to help get things done when they run into a roadblock. We have to be more creative in how we generate manpower... the right manpower. I have some ideas on that, but I'm not sure all of them will work. But I'm trying to get my ducks in a row to attempt some of them after the F9 release. It's unfortunate that Jonathan wasn't able to take presto all the way to an integrated feature. But as a project we have to expect this to happen and we need to start preparing for it. Now that he's admited his limitations, its up to the rest of the Fedora community to step in and take it the rest of the way. Every single person who invests their time and their talents to Fedora is a decision maker. We all decide what we work on as individuals. If we as a community want to see presto become integrated, then we as a community need to be willing to step up and lend a helping hand. So here's the challenge. I need people who are willing to make a larger commitment to Fedora as part of wanting to see presto happen. I need those people to step up and volunteer to some sort of infrastructure apprenticeship. I've no idea what that means exactly at the moment, so it will be a sort of experiment. But I do know that I want candidates to step forward, and I'll be talking to infrastructure about selecting one or two people from that group to mentor. I want this to be a somewhat competitive process. The goal here isn't to shove 20 people at infrastructure and bog down that group's work. The goal here is to make an investment in one or two people that I feel could make a larger impact inside Fedora if they were given a modest amount of mentoring in a new area. There are a lot of ideas floating around in terms of things to integrate into our build system or our website offerings. We need to find a way to build up the available manpower inside infrastructure to integrate those items as each idea matures. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
