On Thu, 13.03.08 11:02, Dimi Paun (dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: Hi! > I am an old time Linux user & hacker, been using Linux > since 1996. It's now 2008, we're about to release F9, > and sound is still a big mess. This is not about filing Yes, it is a big mess. I am being payed for fixing this. And I am working on it. > Cause: pulseaudio refuses to make use of the built-in (Intel) > sound card. And I can't figure out how to force it! Please provide me with the output of of "pulseaudio -vv" This sounds a lot like that you have some remaining alsa config lines in /etc/modprobe.conf which assigns a fixed ALSA sound card index to your internal soundcard, while your USB card gets a dynamically one. Now, since the driver initialization order is not determenistic these days, sometimes your USB driver might initialize before the internal sound card driver. And picks the first available index. Which coincidentally is the same index the internal driver was configured to -- and when it loads it cannot get that idea. If my guess is true, than this is totally unrelated to PA, it's a ALSA config issue. To fix it, just remove all audio related lines from /etc/modprobe.conf. In the lates Fedora release those lines should not be written anymore. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list