Re: Last minute Nautilus change for Fedora 9

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Callum Lerwick wrote:
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 17:52 -0800, Andrew Farris wrote:
I wonder how difficult it would be to get a patch accepted upstream for adding a second pulldown in the Preferences->Views pane which had Icon View, default icon zoom level, and default thumbnail zoom level. The 'default' that option started at would be a minor issue, but exposing that as configurable more easily might be reasonable.

Less preferences, more direct manipulation. Ctrl-scrollwheel seems to be
becoming a defacto standard UI for zooming of various sorts. The user
should be able to just directly "zoom" a window, and then it should
stick. End preference segregation. Put preferences right where they
matter, such as in the context menu of the object it pertains to, don't
mash them all together in a preference dialog.

I agree that ctrl-scrollwheel is a much more effective, and user intuitive zoom interaction... but you *obviously* must deal with the different icon/file sizes versus image thumbnail sizes in a different way, or you'll need shift-ctrl-scrollwheel... and then you cannot use that one for something else. Adding a widget to the preferences dialog to expose a minor preference is not the same thing. You could still zoom your icon view in any way gnome wants to move forward with making 'standard', but whether the sizes match is a different issue.

There are only a limited number of finger contortions that users are capable of 1) doing with their hands, 2) replicating in other means for accessibility support, 3) remembering. The UI is very complicated when applications start taking on these advanced UI interactions without moving them to the control of the system itself. Think for a minute how strange it is to have each window manager with differing window move/resize mousebutton shortcuts by default.

Having nautilus get patched to just zoom in a way that seems best is not the way forward for UIs.

Its time for a major paradigm shift in GUI, based on zooming in and out,
driven by ever higher LCD resolutions and the ubiquitous availability of
scaling hardware. It's time to break free of the idioms developed for
the machines of 1994 and begin designing a new generation of software...

Yes, but a paradigm shift is done in large scale *otherwise it fails*, not one application at a time. Many people have taken up the torch of changing how people interact with computers but most are failing to have major impact with minor changes. Things like multi-touch screens are a major breakthrough... handling keycombo zooms to nautilus without doing so from the larger GTK level itself is not.

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