Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> As for the other points, if we can't provide (and document) the >> ability for developers to test on a secondary arch, that arch >> needs to be removed from Fedora completely. It's useless to >> expect developers to magically fix things they can't debug. > PPC is not a secondary architecture at this time, so perhaps > that's where you are confused. If it's not a secondary architecture, then the poor state of the infrastructure for it is even more inexcusable. We should have more than one test machine available, and how to get at them should be documented in some more obvious place than the archives of this list (which so far as I'm aware we don't even offer search facilities for). Random people occasionally offering machines by means of the mailing list is not what I call an organized infrastructure. At minimum there needs to be easily-findable information on the fedoraproject wiki about how to obtain access to test machines. As for > That's horseshit. Complete and utter horseshit. If the primary > package maintainer doesn't care about a particular secondary > architecture then it's no skin off their nose to simply ignore it. I'm going to call horseshit on you. Portability problems are frequently deep enough to require the skills of the primary package maintainer, or even the key upstream developers. I think that a secondary arch's SIG can probably be expected to detect portability issues, but asking them to take full responsibility for solving them is a project design doomed to failure. Even more to the point, portability bugs are usually "real" bugs, as was already noted upthread. Any self-respecting package maintainer *should* be expected to take an interest in them. But how can she, without access to test machines? A secondary arch that can't provide developers with test machines is not worth being taken seriously. regards, tom lane -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
