On Dec 21, 2007 10:53 AM, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray <debarshi.ray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am aware of them, but was told that those are not "official Fedora" > releases. Can we do this within Fedora itself? Or would that be too > much of a pain? How important is "official" to you? And what does "official" actually mean? Is there no room for very active Fedora community groups to take ownership for some of the technical services to provide an overall wider set of services? If Fedora as a project started making the re-spins instead of Unity, aren't we essential taking control away from them for doing a good job and providing a popular service? Is that necessarily the best thing to do for the overall health of the community? My understanding is the Re-spins are built using all Fedora built packages. But because they don't go through the same release-eng process as our gold releases, they aren't "Official." If they went through they same process...they'd be gold releases and not re-spins and would take as as much (or close) effort to put together as a gold release. So overall the Re-spins are some sort of middle ground that we as a Project don't really know how to position in our offerings. We care and stress the importance of the release process that leads to gold releases. We want people to make use of those releases exactly because we know more about how those packages interact together as compared to updated packages. But at the same time we know Re-spins have value for people who are bitten by bugs in the gold releases, or who want to save band by not having to download packages twice. We also like the fact Unity is out there breaking trails doing innovative stuff, self organization of community to drive innovation isn't a bad thing. So we have to be careful and deliberate about how we deal with re-spins. We want to craft a message that says, gold releases are what we prefer you use because we believe in the process leading up to those releases, but re-spins are a value-added option provided by our innovative community that we have absolutely no problems with you trying, but we can't vouch for as strongly as the gold releases. Personally I think the re-spins are a fabulous service that Unity is offering. Have I ever used them, nope.... not once... I'm an early adopter and active tester leading up to the gold releases. So I'm exactly the person a re-spin doesn't have a lot of value for. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list