On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 11:25:17AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > I had hoped that common sense would prevail across our maintainers and > > that stable releases would be treated as such, stable releases not to > > be cheapened with lots of unnecessary updates just so that "users can > > get the latest stuff!". Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be what's > > happening. I don't want to introduce draconian policies and > > procedures to enforce this, mostly because there just isn't enough time > > in the day to supervise all the potential updates for whether they > > should go out or not. > > > > So I ask you, Fedora Community, how do we as a community ensure that > > our stable releases stay just that, stable? > > Well, it depends. For the stuff I maintain, I tend to follow different > policies depending on the package: > > - Library versions do not get upgraded in a stable release > - The more core a package is, it only gets updated with occasional > severe bugfixes - it is not ever rebased. > - More peripheral things, such as some desktop apps, get updated to > the latest minor bugfix version > > Hard to say how much this works for everyone, though. Not very well. I almost do the opposite with the virt stack We always upgrade libvirt in all supported Fedora releases because there is large demand for new virt features, but more importantly because upstream have strict rule that we never break ABI of the library, or syntax of the command line virsh tool. Occassionally there are bugs introduced, but on the whole upgrading all Fedora releases has brought in improved testing coverage & stability for all. Now for the GUI apps, I tend not to update existing releases to new versions, until the new version has been out in rawhide for at least several months & gotten positive feedback, because any UI changes are immediately noticed by people. Really what I'm saying is that the base library has very good stability across releases, while the UI layer is not so stable. So mandating that libraries are not upgraded, while perhipheral desktop apps can be upgraded is pretty much reverse of what is suitable for virt. Dan. -- |=- Red Hat, Engineering, Emerging Technologies, Boston. +1 978 392 2496 -=| |=- Perl modules: http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ -=| |=- Projects: http://freshmeat.net/~danielpb/ -=| |=- GnuPG: 7D3B9505 F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 -=| -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list