On Tue, 18.12.07 08:22, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > Le mardi 18 décembre 2007 à 01:38 +0100, Lennart Poettering a écrit : > > > It's not that PA doesn't work at all on those special no-X-involved > > setups. The only limitation is that you need to run PA manually in > > such setups. -- No big deal! > > Says the PA author. > > Why are we seeing the same lame arguments again and again? Are we going > to have to retrofit support for "special" uses (special meaning the > author didn't think of them so they "must" be marginal) in PA after > several releases of complains like with the other "future" > solutions? Hmm? I am not sure what you want? If people write their own .xinitrc, then they do that because they want better control of what is started in their X session and what is not. Now, I am not sure what you are are asking for? Shall I find some magic way that PA is started even when people use their own handcrafted xinitrc? You know, I am pretty sure that people would hate me even more for that than with the current solution. If people want the extra bit of control, than they should have it -- and that includes the control if, when and where to start PA. > Will we have to remove PA by default from the Fedora DVD spin to drive > the point home and get you to care about every Fedora user? Again, my focus is to get things working out-of-the-box for the default cases. If you feel you need to write your own session scripts, then you're welcome to do so -- to get PA working on such setups all you need to do is add a "pulseaudio -D" to that script. That seems to be a very reasonable solution for me. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list