On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:41:13PM +0100, Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > I understand why you choose to include it but i don't really like it. > If i run a server i want to have the latest _stable_ releases and > certainly no alpha (BIND) beta or even a build (NetworkManager)! now i > can imagine that desktop applications that aren't in a final release > can get pushed in Fedora because it simply has some nice additions > that you don't want your users to miss. But BIND is a vital part of a > server (DNS Server) so i think you shouldn't include beta's or even > alpha's of that in final releases of Fedora. > > And you say: > > Fedora has new features and new features mean bugs so you > > cannot expect such stability like RHEL. > > Oke i understand that. BUT the fact that you do push a vital server > component that is in alpha in Fedora does imply that you are testing > it on fedora for RHEL! (which in term keeps your other statement > standing). > > Fedora is used for servers (which you as a redhat employee probably > know) but in the mean time it's purpose is mainly a desktop OS. I > would say that: > - All server components like Sendmail, DNS, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL > etc.. should stay up to date with there latest _stable_ release (no > alpha's, beta's or rc's) > - All desktop related applications can probably be less tight.. I > don't see a problem there for alpha's, beta's or rc's.. as long as the > applications itself don't crash and just work. > > That's just my point of view as a fedora desktop and (previously) server user. >From BIND changelog: * Tue Jun 19 2007 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 31:9.5.0a5-1 It means BIND lives in rawhide/F8 about five months and I have reported only one more serious issue (#400461, that is why this thread was started). I believe that "a" word appended to version feels people with dread but I have to say not in this case. I'm ready to downgrade F8 BIND to latest stable but I can't see any argument why. One bug? Because it is alpha? These are not arguments whose could controvert my opinion that it was good decision put 9.5 to F8 Adam > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Adam Tkac, Red Hat, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list