Re: alpha/beta software in Fedora 8?

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On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:41:13PM +0100, Mark wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I understand why you choose to include it but i don't really like it.
> If i run a server i want to have the latest _stable_ releases and
> certainly no alpha (BIND) beta or even a build (NetworkManager)! now i
> can imagine that desktop applications that aren't in a final release
> can get pushed in Fedora because it simply has some nice additions
> that you don't want your users to miss. But BIND is a vital part of a
> server (DNS Server) so i think you shouldn't include beta's or even
> alpha's of that in final releases of Fedora.
> 
> And you say:
> > Fedora has new features and new features mean bugs so you
> > cannot expect such stability like RHEL.
> 
> Oke i understand that. BUT the fact that you do push a vital server
> component that is in alpha in Fedora does imply that you are testing
> it on fedora for RHEL! (which in term keeps your other statement
> standing).
> 
> Fedora is used for servers (which you as a redhat employee probably
> know) but in the mean time it's purpose is mainly a desktop OS. I
> would say that:
>  - All server components like Sendmail, DNS, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL
> etc.. should stay up to date with there latest _stable_ release (no
> alpha's, beta's or rc's)
>  - All desktop related applications can probably be less tight.. I
> don't see a problem there for alpha's, beta's or rc's.. as long as the
> applications itself don't crash and just work.
> 
> That's just my point of view as a fedora desktop and (previously) server user.

>From BIND changelog:
* Tue Jun 19 2007 Adam Tkac <atkac redhat com> 31:9.5.0a5-1

It means BIND lives in rawhide/F8 about five months and I have
reported only one more serious issue (#400461, that is why this thread
was started). I believe that "a" word appended to version feels people
with dread but I have to say not in this case. I'm ready to downgrade
F8 BIND to latest stable but I can't see any argument why. One bug?
Because it is alpha? These are not arguments whose could controvert my
opinion that it was good decision put 9.5 to F8

Adam

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