On Nov 27, 2007 1:41 PM, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > - All desktop related applications can probably be less tight.. I > don't see a problem there for alpha's, beta's or rc's.. as long as the > applications itself don't crash and just work. I think a concept of how capable the maintainer is to address bugs as downstream patches needs to be factored in as well. And how early in the process in the testing process the pre-release versions showed up into the testing tree. We've had dbus in fedora for a few releases now.. well before its api was nailed down and considered stable.. haven't we? It's not a critical server service.. nor is it a desktop application itself..but it does critically affect the desktop experience since multiple desktop components rely on dbus. In the future it might be beneficial to raise a big stink about pre-release stuff which is being considered in the release as we march through the testing process. If a maintainer feels comfortable releasing an alpha component or application then we need to make sure that we have a reasonable way for testers to see it coming down the pipe and have an opportunity to beat the snot out of that component as part of Fedora testing. I don't think its unreasonable to give testers a heads up about pre-release stuff so they can prioritize how they spend time testing before a Fedora release. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list