On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:59:02 +0100 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@xxxxxx> wrote: > With the big problem here being not rel-eng nor the rel-eng process, > but me getting the feeling that investing time in decision making > discussions is useless, as: > 1) Things are already pretty much pre-cooked, when you say: "I > created the proposal after talking to some people". I read "I created > the proposal after talking to most of rel-eng". Don't get me wrong > this is a logical thing todo, but if proposals get pre-cooked this > way and I disagree I get to argue with rel-eng as a whole / as a > block, since you already have reached a consensus on how things > should be done, and even though there may have been different > opinions in the past, everyone has now adjusted his opinion to the > consensus (which is a normal thing todo for any human). > > 2) Because of 1) mainly I guess I do no get the feeling that people > are actually listening to me. No, the people I talked to were mostly packagers, not other rel-eng people. I didn't really talk to other rel-eng people until I had the wiki page up. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
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