On 14.11.2007 22:34, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:36 +0100 > Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@xxxxxx> wrote: > >> Look at it this way, Fedora is all about Freedom, but since the >> merger the Freedom for contributers (esp. packagers) has been greatly >> reduced. Take the new release engineering proposals for example, I >> have some ideas about this, but the entire release engineering crowd >> had already precooked there ideas and unanimously disagreed with >> mine, or atleast that is how I perceived this. >> >> Most typically of all this I guess is this alinea: This will probably >> be my last mail in this thread, as I see no use in continuing this >> dicussion, why? Because I no longer believe that discussions like >> this will cause any changes. > > Wow, I am somewhat blindsided by this. > > I created the proposal after talking to some people and posted it out > on the net for review, long before even the rel-eng group voted on it. > I asked for all kinds of feed back, multiple times. I had to get the > releng group to agree to it, and FESCo an opportunity to agree to it. > There was discussion on list and changes made. What more were you > looking for? The "Request for Comments: Proposed changes to Fedora development cycle" for example got posted on "Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:24:48 -0400" here https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-October/msg01206.html You received feedback from some people, including from Hans, Me and some others. On "# Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:52:34 -0400" you in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-October/msg02295.html announced "Potential changes to Fedora development cycle" with the words: "The release engineering team as put together a proposed set of development cycle changes [1] that could affect Fedora 9 development. This proposed set of changes has been reviewed on fedora-devel-list and other lists for a period of time and input has been incorporated as best it could. Now it's coming time for FESCo to vote on adopting the new development cycle." I looked in the wiki what actually got changed between the two points of time; that's afaics from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelopmentChangesProposal?action=info this diff: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelopmentChangesProposal?action=diff&rev2=11&rev1=4 I'd call that some clarifications in the text to make the proposal more clear. But sorry, I would not call that "input has been incorporated as best it could." CU knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
