On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 15:58 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:31 -0500, Jonathan S. Shapiro wrote: > > I have to say that since we switched to mercurial we haven't looked > > back. We are finding advantages to distributed VCS even though our > > workflow model is basically centralized. > > > > For purposes of centralized workflow, the main change is that > > centralized processing is triggered by "push" rather than by "commit". > > With this exception, the workflow is basically unchanged relative to > > other centralized workflows. > Right things are different, that's all. Welcome to the 21st century (SCNR). When talking about the Fedora packaging repository, the only real difference would be the use of "hg ci; hg push" instead of "cvs ci". This could easily be wrapped into a "make commit" target which would make the underlying VCS implementation really uninteresting to the packager. > > What hg is buying us is the following: > [..] > > > > I'm not pushing for any change. I'm just trying to answer the workflow > > question. > Where in Fedora's package development would you see niches to apply > these aspects? I don't see any. > > Finally, being a long term CVS user, would has very mixed experiences > wrt. SVN, and who has recently been confronted with both git and > mercurial, I can't deny finding both git and hg as not to be suitable > for centralized development. They don't really buy much. Would you elaborate on that? Without examples where these tools allegedly are lacking this is only your opinion. I have switched over several of my projects from CVS to mercurial and have found that everything I did with CVS I could do with mercurial, but with much less hassle. For example, merging between branches can become hairy with CVS, as noted in the Cederqvist[1]: "[...] If you just use the cvs update -j R1fix m.c command again, CVS will attempt to merge again the changes which you have already merged, which can have undesirable side effects.[...]". Modern VCSes remember what I have merged already and only attempt to merge the rest, with them branching and merging are easy and enjoyable every-day operations. As for other areas where CVS and other VCSs are lacking, I'd suggest viewing "Tech Talk: Linus Torvalds on git"[2]. [1]: http://ximbiot.com/cvs/manual/cvs-1.11.22/cvs_5.html#SEC61 [2]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
