On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 09:22 +0200, Christoph Höger wrote: > Please don't misunderstand me, I did not mean "too hard to do ist for > "normal users". I just meant that it is not comfortable to change each > font one by one if the target is to "just get the desktop fonts smaller > (and keep the current ratio)", not that it should not be possible to > change each font size individually. Ah, OK. I apologize for speaking sharply. But still, small/normal or small/medium/large is too limiting. I still want the range of point sizes (and I want them to mean real points!). I usually do set all my fonts to one size, but I would still advocate an advanced setting that allows hard-core customizers to change sizes for individual fonts if they want. > > Am Dienstag, den 23.10.2007, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Matthew Saltzman: > > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 21:31 +0200, Christoph Hger wrote: > > > Richi Plana schrieb: > > > > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 00:24 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > > > > >> Le mardi 23 octobre 2007 00:01 -0400, Christoph Hoeger a crit : > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> is that sense-full? I mean, I've bought a Thinkpad R60 with a 1440x900 > > > >>> Display to see more information on my screen simultaneously > > > >>> > > > >> If you want small fonts just lower the size in points of your fonts in > > > >> your app preferences. Gnome font preferences use pt as unit. Till now > > > >> the GNOME pt unit had no relation with the pt unit the rest of the world > > > >> uses. Now it's the same, so if you want small fonts you need to actually > > > >> configure small fonts and not change the unit meaning on your system > > > >> (and likewise if you want big fonts). > > > >> > > > >> That also means BTW that when you change laptop again your text will > > > >> stay the same size regardless of the screen resolution, so you can > > > >> invest the time to find good settings you'll keep them a long time. > > > >> > > > > > > > > I, for one, am glad that there's a move to make font sizes be based on > > > > length rather than point sizes. > > > > > > > > The selection of a default font size is still crap-shoot, at best. > > > > Having the monitor DPI as a dependency now allows people to say "I want > > > > fonts that are so-and-so millimeters in height", unfortunately, 1) we > > > > still lack information like distance of the viewer from the screen and > > > > the height of the screen relative to the viewer, and 2) we've no way to > > > > guess what the user would want, anyway. There are a couple of > > > > discussions on the most ergonomic distance between monitor and viewer, > > > > but font size preference is pretty varied. The only way to find out is > > > > to let the gnome desktop provide feedback (a'la Smolt) after the user > > > > has customized the desktop to his/her preference. Perhaps than a norm > > > > can be established. > > > > > > > > Personally, I would like to set my font size preference in some length > > > > unit of measure so that I can bump up the resolution and not have the > > > > fonts and icons shrink to sizes I can hardly read. It's important for me > > > > to see a lot more information on the screen, but not to the point where > > > > it becomes useless because they're too small that I keep having to > > > > squint. Believe me, straining ones eyesight like that will eventually > > > > take its toll. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Richi Plana > > > > > > > > > > > I totally agree with your point. > > > But in my case that would mean to have one choice to use "small fonts" > > > instead of "normal fonts". I think that choosing (and testing) every > > > font size until it fits your needs is a little too much work for a > > > normal user to have a comfortable desktop. > > > > Really? How incompetent do we think "normal users" are? > > > > Users that don't want to take the trouble and are willing to live with > > the consequences will behave accordingly anyway. For those of us that > > tune our desktops to within an inch of their lives, leave us the option, > > please? > > > > > So could we provide a > > > "small/normal/large font" switch or even theme? > > > > If this is the direction you want to go, could you at least leave the > > full selection available as "advanced"? > > > > > > > > christoph > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthew Saltzman > > > > Clemson University Math Sciences > > mjs AT clemson DOT edu > > http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs > > > > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
