IMHO gnome-keyring should simply allow passwordless keyrings like KWallet does, that would solve this problem in a much simpler way for most use cases, and standard *nix permissions will keep the data just as secure as with pam_keyring automatically unlocking the keyring for the user owning it anyway. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list