on 9/19/2007 6:09 PM, � wrote: >> on 9/19/2007 4:29 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >>> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:18 +0000, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>>> Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes: >>>>> Yeah, but then you don't walk away from your root session expecting >>>>> the >>>>> screensaver to kick in - which it doesn't for root. >>>> Then fix that GNOME bug instead of hiding it. Screensavers and desktop >>>> locking >>>> for root work just fine in KDE. >>> And I assume that KDE users are just happy to run tons of unaudited >>> toolkit code as root... >>> >>> Anyway, its a moot point, we'll re-enable root login for test3. >> >> I have watched this thread since the beginning and I can no longer keep my >> peace. >> >> A knowledgeable Linux user would know how to change this default. Or >> figure out how to change. I know how and I am certainly not on the level >> of many here. >> > > True so he know he can simply <ctrl><alt>F1 and take it from there... > >> A 'not so knowledgeable Linux user' would use the 'enter Roots password' >> windows to preform these tasks. >> > > And if the user manage to shoot himself in the foot so he cant login > using his username and password how is he gonna manage to get to his > "enter the root password dialog".... > >> Any user that can not do either of these things *does not* have any >> business logging in as root in a GUI. Period. > > Wrong he has a fighting chance to save himself log into familiar > surroundings fix the situation with S-C-* tools, learn from his mistake > instead of have to do clean install or bother advanced users given that they > are some where around him. > > The alternitive "dropping him to terminal window" were he would be dead in > the water... > >> Or do you want Fedora 8 to be like Windows? > > No... > >> Where 'run as root' is the >> default for the 'not so knowledgeable Windows user'? > > Last time I used M$ windows it made dam sure that the user could harm > the system ( windows it self ) and question every other move he did.. > > Maybe Windows is actually trusting user today but I doubt it... > >> You want them to be >> able to shoot themselves in the foot? > > Yes. the users will learn from there mistakes, adopt,evolve and move on.. > > Let's place the trust on the user always. > >> I hope not. >> >> Want to use Linux, be a Linux Geek, so to speak? Learn a little more about >> it first. More than downloading an ISO and burning it it Windows. > > Nope get the user first into linux as hazle free and comfortable as > possible... > >>From there he will start using, playing, fiddle around *expanding his > knowledge about linux. etc.. Well as soon as Linux can play Oblivion, Solder of Fortune, Half-Life, and the so many other Windows games you will get a *lot* of 'new Linux users' from Windows. Just as ignorant as you are looking for here. I give up. Logical thinking does not work when dealing with zealots. But I still think that you are wrong. No default GUI root logins. -- David
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