On 9/3/07, Stewart Adam <s.adam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Duplicating s-c-s into firstboot would be pointless; I think what Martin > was trying to say was that a the services we enable now as a "just > incase" like apmd, cpuspeed, the rpc batch could go into a "Do you > actually need these?" list. A simple checkmark with clear, one-lined > descriptions. If you are able to simplify it... then simplify it post-install by improving s-c-services. There is no compelling reason to let users disable default services as part of the install process. Let's say my wife installs fedora on her desktop and she doesn't want bluetooth. Using an install time process...like you want..she'd turn it off at install time right? Now lets say she gets a spiffy bluetooth appliance and an usb to bluetooth adaptor for her desktop so she can talk to that bluetooth appliance. Where does she go to re-enable bluetooth on the desktop? She has to go to s-c-services!!!!!!! The ultimate win here is to fix the primary user interface users need to use to turn off and turn on services they feel they need or don't need. The other ultimate win is to more towards on-demand servicing as much as possible to reduce the need for any service control. There is no compelling reason to drive this into the install process.. it only complicates usability because the user will have to interact with a different interface to turn services back on post-install. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list