On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:03:35 -0500 "David G. Mackay" <mackay_d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 17:24 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:59:28 -0500 > > "David G. Mackay" <mackay_d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > And for the record, I do use Fedora. Rawhide at home, latest release > > > > at work. On every machine I own. That covers the gamut of primary > > > > arches Fedora has (i686, x86_64, ppc, ppc64). > > > > > > > > josh > > > > > > And what do you do when you require functionality that's not in Fedora? > > > > Depends. If it's outside the scope of Fedora, such as codecs, etc I > > certainly don't expect Fedora to fill that need. If it's within the > > realm of Fedora, and it's not present yet I package it up myself. If > > it's already in Fedora and it's lacking something I need, I work with > > upstream to get it in place so it will follow naturally to Fedora. > > So you really rely on your ability to extend Fedora to make it do what > you want. I understand the problems with the codecs, and expect that, > were it legal to do so, they would be included. The problems stemming > from the need for a compat-python are a bit different. Given the fact > that python breaks compatibility with itself rather badly on a regualar > basis, I suspect that your problems working with upstream developers are > going to increase, and Fedora's own in-house projects may very well need > a compat-python. Well, two things: 1) You asked what I do when Fedora lacks something _I_ need. That has never included zope/plone or really any other python app. So, at a personal level, I'm not really impacted here. But my approach would not differ it I was. 2) Fedora has quite a few in-house python projects and none of them have needed a compat package so far. Whether that is because of internal whip cracking to port to newer python, or because people are just that motivated I have no idea. I don't work on any of those projects. All that being said, it is _extremely_ important to remember that just because it's not in Fedora doesn't mean it's bad. If people need a compat python package, then they can by all means create one themselves and slap it into a third party repo for others to use. Take Ignacio for example. While I disagree that Fedora as a _distro_ needs a python3.0 alpha package at the moment, I applaud his efforts to get it packaged and shared. I think that is a very worthwhile effort, and I'm glad he's done so. I only wish something like that would have happened for zope/plone in the F7 timeframe. (And maybe it did, I just am not aware of it.) josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
